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Time to get all intellectual regarding the humble zombie. Check out this article. The author has a left-wing salnt in case anybody is wondering about his politics.


In common with a lot of one-time Catholic schoolboys, there will always exist a small part of my mind devoted to keeping a list of things I do which would upset the local Father. It’s a bit like those social networking sites which promise never to properly delete your data even when you leave: if you can remember to confess everything, you can come back anytime you like. I don’t know where writing about a programme called The Walking Dead in a column before Easter comes in the litany of must-not-dos but if the day ever comes, I’ll make sure I stand next to those clever souls who stuck an advert for it on the side of a funeral parlour.

Those not so theologically or philosophically challenged, or in possession of the Holy Grail of a subscription to cable channel FX, may be already aware that The Walking Dead is the big new US drama from Mad Men network AMC, and which has just started showing to free-to-air mortals on Channel Five these past few weeks. It comes with some considerable pedigree too: developed by The Shawshank Redemption director Frank Darabont and based on a hit series of well-respected comic books, it has already been commissioned for a second series. As is to be expected after Hugh Laurie’s success on House, Ian ‘Lovejoy’ McShane’s rehabilitation on Deadwood, and the numerous British and Irish actors still struggling to recapture the heights after breaking through on The Wire, The Walking Dead also features This Life’s Egg (Andrew Lincoln) and Lennie James in leading roles. Oh, it’s also about zombies.

The zombie genre occupies a curious place in the collective cultural consciousness. While Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein may have furnished the Romantic imagination with a proto-zombie, the constant reinventions and reimaginations of that classic tale through the years reveal something about the lack of gravitas the undead otherwise carry. The zombie belongs to the B-movie films, comic books and video games of the teenage boy: kitsch entertainment which is good for a few scares and cherished nostalgically by those forced to sit through contemporary ‘torture porn’ blockbusters such as Saw and Hostel as a nice reminder of a time when people got their kicks from watching representations of dead people being brutalised and ripped to shreds.

Yet, partly as a result of its mass market appeal, zombies have a great deal of seriousness thrust upon them. Zombie films, the goriest of them all, have always found themselves at the forefront of modern battles over free speech, deriving much of their energy and popularity from censor-baiting. Certainly anyone today watching Sam Raimi’s wittily kitsch classic The Evil Dead would be astonished to discover that it fronted the original 1980s ‘video nasty’ moral panic pursued by Thatcher’s pseudo libertarian government.

As such, the calibre of its zombies are always an interesting, if fantastically unsubtle, barometer of each generation’s social and political attitudes. In George A Romero’s monumental Dawn of the Dead films, the zombie film as anti-consumerist satire provided a dominant motif for the post-Sixties disillusion of Seventies America, overtaking the ‘enemy within’ Cold War paranoia of the alien invader.

The Eighties saw the emergence of clever postmodern self-referentialism as Generation X took hold and home entertainment was thrust into the middle of the growing culture war. The Nineties saw the rise of the video game, from the Romero-inspired Doom through to Bioshock and Resident Evil. It took Danny Boyle (currently directing the Frankenstein stage revival) with 28 Days Later to kick-start the genre by tapping into the culture of fear and pre-empting post-9-11 security worries with its deserted London cityscapes and military rule. It even inspired a sudden run of generally rotten remakes of iconic zombie blockbusters. More recently, as in Charlie Brooker’s Dead Set or Shaun of the Dead, the zombie film has been turned into self-congratulatory comedy fodder, representing a view of the public as an unthinking mob.

There is something telling, therefore, about the zombie revival on the small screen – increasingly displacing film as the home of serious American introspection – as the US faces up to fading economic might and a domestic political sphere dominated by bitter internal strife and the absence of strong leadership. The hero is a small-town cop, played by Lincoln, who wakes up after recuperating from gunshot wounds received during a drugs bust to discover himself in a big city – Atlanta – in which society has collapsed and the undead roam.



As has been noted by some, zombie films differ from other fantasy genres in being almost entirely uninterested in the disaster porn common in the contemporary apocalyptic blockbuster: we invariably enter the stage after the zombies have taken over. These are predominantly survival stories, where the resourceful creativity of human beings is pitted against their basest instincts, either in the form of the undead or in their ability (or otherwise) to work alongside their fellow survivors.

It is no surprise that Darabont has been drawn to the project. Previously he tackled Stephen King’s studies in survival and belief in The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, and he nearly tackled King’s apocalyptic tale The Stand. What is being depicted in The Walking Dead is a nation battling for survival. Like Cormac McCarthy’s magnificently subtle The Road the interest here is no longer anti-consumerist digs or celebrating the destruction of the arrogant follies of mankind. Instead, as in all of America’s most interesting artistic output at the minute, including The Arcade Fire’s recent elegiac album The Suburbs, there is only a sense of disorientation, fear of the future and nostalgia for a long-gone past.

While the comics were acclaimed for their social commentary in a slightly different age, the strength of the television adaptation seems to lie in the infinite malleability of the zombie: a dumb, lifeless shell driven only by the unblinking need to consume. Whether they act as a metaphor for the rise of China, the Tea Party-supporting public, the liberal elite waging war on homely American values or plain old guts-loving villains is really up to you. With the war on terror limping away from the foreign policy stage and even the liberal chattering classes becoming increasingly ambivalent about democratic uprisings in the Middle East, no-one even pretends to know who the real heroes and villains are anymore.

Certainly, much of The Walking Dead is naff: the dialogue is particularly risible. Anybody perplexed by the phenomenal popularity of Darabont’s films will not have their mind changed by what is still, at heart, a B-movie dressed up in modern clothes. But he has definitely shown a talent for tapping into the American cultural psyche before, and seems to have repeated the trick here. The good news is that, in American pop culture, humanity is no longer the bad guy in need of alien invasion or ecological disaster to rip it up and start again. But it is also not much clearer as to where it goes next from here, which is pretty scary stuff. Watching where The Walking Dead takes us, therefore, will be compelling viewing.

David Bowden.


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Never got the whole Zombie thing being honest.
The remake of Dawn of the Dead was about as much like as I have for the genre.

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The lasting appeal of zombie apocalypse is on a primal level it'd be an absolute blast. Load yourself up with guns, build a ludicrous deathwagon with spikes and rotating blades, and start slaughtering the walking dead. No more worrying about work or school, or any of that crap, it's just you and a shotgun vs an uncaring world.

There was a moment in Shaun of the Dead when they acknowledge, terrifying as it might be, that whacking a zombie on the head with a cricket bat would be wicked fun, and that moment pretty much made that movie for me.

I mean, sure, there's also the constant fear of death and dealing with the loss of your loved ones, but that's where the silliness of zombie stories becomes a feature, not a bug. You've already got your audience to believe something that's absolutely ludicrous, so at that point you only have to worry about real human reactions as much as you want to. So if you want to ignore all that angsty crap and just get on with the slaughter you can.

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sebster wrote:The lasting appeal of zombie apocalypse is on a primal level it'd be an absolute blast. Load yourself up with guns, build a ludicrous deathwagon with spikes and rotating blades, and start slaughtering the walking dead. No more worrying about work or school, or any of that crap, it's just you and a shotgun vs an uncaring world.

There was a moment in Shaun of the Dead when they acknowledge, terrifying as it might be, that whacking a zombie on the head with a cricket bat would be wicked fun, and that moment pretty much made that movie for me.

I mean, sure, there's also the constant fear of death and dealing with the loss of your loved ones, but that's where the silliness of zombie stories becomes a feature, not a bug. You've already got your audience to believe something that's absolutely ludicrous, so at that point you only have to worry about real human reactions as much as you want to. So if you want to ignore all that angsty crap and just get on with the slaughter you can.


I'll agree with this,though there is "obvious social comentary" in most zombie films ( mindless consumerism/zombies in the shopping malls),I'll admit there is (for me) an appeal to the more "simple rules" life in a post zombie apocalypse would bring.


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FITZZ wrote:
sebster wrote:The lasting appeal of zombie apocalypse is on a primal level it'd be an absolute blast. Load yourself up with guns, build a ludicrous deathwagon with spikes and rotating blades, and start slaughtering the walking dead. No more worrying about work or school, or any of that crap, it's just you and a shotgun vs an uncaring world.

There was a moment in Shaun of the Dead when they acknowledge, terrifying as it might be, that whacking a zombie on the head with a cricket bat would be wicked fun, and that moment pretty much made that movie for me.

I mean, sure, there's also the constant fear of death and dealing with the loss of your loved ones, but that's where the silliness of zombie stories becomes a feature, not a bug. You've already got your audience to believe something that's absolutely ludicrous, so at that point you only have to worry about real human reactions as much as you want to. So if you want to ignore all that angsty crap and just get on with the slaughter you can.


I'll agree with this,though there is "obvious social comentary" in most zombie films ( mindless consumerism/zombies in the shopping malls),I'll admit there is (for me) an appeal to the more "simple rules" life in a post zombie apocalypse would bring.


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Here's my theory, everybody loves wearing spiked football pads.

The problem is there's like three situations where it's appropriate:
Nuclear Apocalypse
Zombie Apocalypse
Oakland Raiders game

Of the three, zombie apocalypse is definitely the most appealing.

QED.

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I think it's the general breakdown of society...
If you survive you can be anything you want and start your entire life anew... that appeals to some people.

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For me its the survival aspect i suppose. Having sufficient knowledge that even while being slightly frail and physically weak, i have the knowledge on this for if it were to happen i think i would live. The whole, lets kill everything thats not a zombie, travelling across the country in search of safety, thats what grabs me about it.

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I don't think people realize how hard it would be to survive. Finding food/water in a city 6 months after its gone to hell is a daunting task.

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David Bowden wrote:More recently, as in Charlie Brooker’s Dead Set or Shaun of the Dead, the zombie film has been turned into self-congratulatory comedy fodder, representing a view of the public as an unthinking mob.


And here lies much of the appeal, at least the parts of it that aren't similar to hitting someone in a boxing match, or football game. Not that its bad or anything, well, the latter element isn't. Though I do like deriding other people for not thinking enough, but lots of people find it rude, so it might not be good.

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purplefood wrote:All the fun of killing whoever you like an none of the hassle that the fuzz bring to the party.

This for me.

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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:Time to get all intellectual regarding the humble zombie. Check out this article. The author has a left-wing salnt in case anybody is wondering about his politics.


In common with a lot of one-time Catholic schoolboys, there will always exist a small part of my mind devoted to keeping a list of things I do which would upset the local Father. It’s a bit like those social networking sites which promise never to properly delete your data even when you leave: if you can remember to confess everything, you can come back anytime you like. I don’t know where writing about a programme called The Walking Dead in a column before Easter comes in the litany of must-not-dos but if the day ever comes, I’ll make sure I stand next to those clever souls who stuck an advert for it on the side of a funeral parlour.

Those not so theologically or philosophically challenged, or in possession of the Holy Grail of a subscription to cable channel FX, may be already aware that The Walking Dead is the big new US drama from Mad Men network AMC, and which has just started showing to free-to-air mortals on Channel Five these past few weeks. It comes with some considerable pedigree too: developed by The Shawshank Redemption director Frank Darabont and based on a hit series of well-respected comic books, it has already been commissioned for a second series. As is to be expected after Hugh Laurie’s success on House, Ian ‘Lovejoy’ McShane’s rehabilitation on Deadwood, and the numerous British and Irish actors still struggling to recapture the heights after breaking through on The Wire, The Walking Dead also features This Life’s Egg (Andrew Lincoln) and Lennie James in leading roles. Oh, it’s also about zombies.

The zombie genre occupies a curious place in the collective cultural consciousness. While Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein may have furnished the Romantic imagination with a proto-zombie, the constant reinventions and reimaginations of that classic tale through the years reveal something about the lack of gravitas the undead otherwise carry. The zombie belongs to the B-movie films, comic books and video games of the teenage boy: kitsch entertainment which is good for a few scares and cherished nostalgically by those forced to sit through contemporary ‘torture porn’ blockbusters such as Saw and Hostel as a nice reminder of a time when people got their kicks from watching representations of dead people being brutalised and ripped to shreds.

Yet, partly as a result of its mass market appeal, zombies have a great deal of seriousness thrust upon them. Zombie films, the goriest of them all, have always found themselves at the forefront of modern battles over free speech, deriving much of their energy and popularity from censor-baiting. Certainly anyone today watching Sam Raimi’s wittily kitsch classic The Evil Dead would be astonished to discover that it fronted the original 1980s ‘video nasty’ moral panic pursued by Thatcher’s pseudo libertarian government.

As such, the calibre of its zombies are always an interesting, if fantastically unsubtle, barometer of each generation’s social and political attitudes. In George A Romero’s monumental Dawn of the Dead films, the zombie film as anti-consumerist satire provided a dominant motif for the post-Sixties disillusion of Seventies America, overtaking the ‘enemy within’ Cold War paranoia of the alien invader.

The Eighties saw the emergence of clever postmodern self-referentialism as Generation X took hold and home entertainment was thrust into the middle of the growing culture war. The Nineties saw the rise of the video game, from the Romero-inspired Doom through to Bioshock and Resident Evil. It took Danny Boyle (currently directing the Frankenstein stage revival) with 28 Days Later to kick-start the genre by tapping into the culture of fear and pre-empting post-9-11 security worries with its deserted London cityscapes and military rule. It even inspired a sudden run of generally rotten remakes of iconic zombie blockbusters. More recently, as in Charlie Brooker’s Dead Set or Shaun of the Dead, the zombie film has been turned into self-congratulatory comedy fodder, representing a view of the public as an unthinking mob.

There is something telling, therefore, about the zombie revival on the small screen – increasingly displacing film as the home of serious American introspection – as the US faces up to fading economic might and a domestic political sphere dominated by bitter internal strife and the absence of strong leadership. The hero is a small-town cop, played by Lincoln, who wakes up after recuperating from gunshot wounds received during a drugs bust to discover himself in a big city – Atlanta – in which society has collapsed and the undead roam.



As has been noted by some, zombie films differ from other fantasy genres in being almost entirely uninterested in the disaster porn common in the contemporary apocalyptic blockbuster: we invariably enter the stage after the zombies have taken over. These are predominantly survival stories, where the resourceful creativity of human beings is pitted against their basest instincts, either in the form of the undead or in their ability (or otherwise) to work alongside their fellow survivors.

It is no surprise that Darabont has been drawn to the project. Previously he tackled Stephen King’s studies in survival and belief in The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, and he nearly tackled King’s apocalyptic tale The Stand. What is being depicted in The Walking Dead is a nation battling for survival. Like Cormac McCarthy’s magnificently subtle The Road the interest here is no longer anti-consumerist digs or celebrating the destruction of the arrogant follies of mankind. Instead, as in all of America’s most interesting artistic output at the minute, including The Arcade Fire’s recent elegiac album The Suburbs, there is only a sense of disorientation, fear of the future and nostalgia for a long-gone past.

While the comics were acclaimed for their social commentary in a slightly different age, the strength of the television adaptation seems to lie in the infinite malleability of the zombie: a dumb, lifeless shell driven only by the unblinking need to consume. Whether they act as a metaphor for the rise of China, the Tea Party-supporting public, the liberal elite waging war on homely American values or plain old guts-loving villains is really up to you. With the war on terror limping away from the foreign policy stage and even the liberal chattering classes becoming increasingly ambivalent about democratic uprisings in the Middle East, no-one even pretends to know who the real heroes and villains are anymore.

Certainly, much of The Walking Dead is naff: the dialogue is particularly risible. Anybody perplexed by the phenomenal popularity of Darabont’s films will not have their mind changed by what is still, at heart, a B-movie dressed up in modern clothes. But he has definitely shown a talent for tapping into the American cultural psyche before, and seems to have repeated the trick here. The good news is that, in American pop culture, humanity is no longer the bad guy in need of alien invasion or ecological disaster to rip it up and start again. But it is also not much clearer as to where it goes next from here, which is pretty scary stuff. Watching where The Walking Dead takes us, therefore, will be compelling viewing.

David Bowden.


Meh. Zombies are about zombie killing. Enough said.

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Personally I like that I could walk down the high street with a machine gun and throw grenades inside Dixons and generally brass everyone up.

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mattyrm wrote:Personally I like that I could walk down the high street with a machine gun and throw grenades inside Dixons and generally brass everyone up.


Could I join you?

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Goddard wrote:I don't think people realize how hard it would be to survive. Finding food/water in a city 6 months after its gone to hell is a daunting task.

Actually, if the situation really is as shown in these movies (few survivors, many zombies), finding food and water in a city wouldn't be that difficult at all. There is a tremendous amount of packaged food and water available in your average supermarket that you could probably survive for months without leaving the store. Wal-Mart and similar stores would make survival even easier (easy access to ammunition, natural gas for cooking, and other resources). I Am Legend demonstrated this element pretty well.

But zombie movies (like all movies) are meant to be escapist. The people don't worry about disease, wild animals, and malnutrition, they only have to care about the zombies. Realism (and understanding that essentially you're killing other people) is a bit of a buzzkill in a zombie movie.

Kinda like Powerkill to RPGs.

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biccat wrote:But zombie movies (like all movies) are meant to be escapist. The people don't worry about disease, wild animals, and malnutrition, they only have to care about the zombies. Realism (and understanding that essentially you're killing other people) is a bit of a buzzkill in a zombie movie.


Indeed - though the problem is often that food supplies have a limited shelf date, there would be other survivors looting stores, food ruined by accident (weapons damaging packets/flooding storage areas/whatever), not to mention that any place you stay for any period is likely to attract significant numbers of zombies making it hard to plant crops and so on, or build up/exist in a place with significant supplies stored up.

In the short term (up to a year or so) survival would be relatively easy (ignoring being eaten/killed by another human/zombie or catching some disease/etc).

I quite like the "vanishing populance" type senarios, where people just vanish, leaving only a few people behind. All the benefits of being able to re-write who and what you are, none of the drawbacks of things trying to eat you all the time. Though still the risk that you encounter someone annoying who also remained behind.

   
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So basically, IMO, zombie films are the new westerns, tapping into the American psyche, rich with metaphors such as self-sufficiency, and standing alone, high noon style

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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:So basically, IMO, zombie films are the new westerns, tapping into the American psyche, rich with metaphors such as self-sufficiency, and standing alone, high noon style

I disagree. I don't think they arethat deep at all. Pretty much an excuse just to show normal people (or not normal with the Resident Evil ones) blowing away scads of other people in a nice gory manner. they are cheap to produce and make money. Some are quite good but most are utterly forgettable.

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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:You dare call youself an American!


No. I am a Texan.

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Ribon Fox wrote:For once Frazzled is quite right

There's a reason he's called Mellow Yellow.

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Ribon Fox wrote:For once Frazzled is quite right

There's a reason he's called Mellow Yellow.





Wiener dog update for the week todate while on vacation in Houston.

At final tally Rodney was stuck in

-a crepe murtle bush twice

-dangling from a swimsuit

-dangling from a swim bag

-stole a hamburger

-stole some milk

-was attacked by a dive bombing bird

-tried to ride the head of Dad's big old dog



Tbone

-discovered a new chew toy

-became fixated on the chickens

-is Dad's old dog sergeant at arms and follows him, barking in parallel.

-bared his teeth at the dive bombing bird and general vicinity

-got lost in the middle of the backyard twice and had to be shepherded back by Dad's old dog. (Sr. moments)


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There's a difference?


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The Great State of Texas

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
No. I am a Texan.


There's a difference?


Oh yea. Remember the United States is part of Texas.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
No. I am a Texan.


There's a difference?



Is there an equivalent in the UK to the Texas/US relationship?

I'm not quite sure how to explain the whole thing.

Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways

Monster Rain wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
No. I am a Texan.


There's a difference?



Is there an equivalent in the UK to the Texas/US relationship?

I'm not quite sure how to explain the whole thing.


Scotland likes to think it is a real country.

   
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Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.

SilverMK2 wrote:Scotland likes to think it is a real country.


/backs away slowly from thread

Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. 
   
 
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