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Having seen the writing on the spreadsheet I have decided that I will finally take the plunge into Warmahordes
I have always liked the look of the Trollbloods models and cool being one important element was wondering what I would be best served to collect as an army
My local scene is VERY VERY VERY competitive so while I am a noob I would like something that would give me at least a chance at victory after I get the rules down

Can you help me Dakka? I would like a competitive list for 15/20-25/35 point levels
oh one other thing - is the Dire Troll Blitzer any good? Cause I LOVE LOVE LOVE the way the model looks! Other than that I have no preferences one way or another (total noob remember )

cheers

Papasmurf


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Having looked further at the models that interest me, what if anything could I generate using the following

Earthborn Dire Troll
Dire Troll Mauler
Dire Troll Blitzer
Troll Bouncer
KrielStone Bearer and Scribes
LongRiders
Trollkin Sluggers
Trollkin Champions
Trollblood Rune shapers
Fellcaller
Trollkin Hero
and then
Madrak or Hoarluk

cheers

Papasmurf

welcome to hordes. im a warmachine player but i have had stinits in the hordes side of the game a few times over the years.

trolls are a hard hitting faction that really benefit from buffs that they can layer on their units from different support units. the infantry also has tough (think FNP on a 5+) and are usually quite hard hitting.

the blitzer is very good. he is better with some warlocks than others.

Madrak is the beginning warlock that exists in the box set, i have no real experience with him, but looking over his info he is a melee beatstick that supports his army by boosting their combat potential.

Epic Madrak is a beater i have used alot. he likes to maximize on reach troops and weaponmasters and less so on beasts, usually you will see champs, fennblades and longriders with him.

Epic Hoarluk (eDoomie) is a beast warlock that likes alot of beasts. he runs them well and can really manage them well with the help of whelps.

so with therese warlocks maybe you want to start with:

35 points:

Chief Madrak Ironhide
Troll Axer
Troll Bouncer
Dire Troll Blitzer
Trollkin Runebearer
Krielstone Bearer and 3 Stone Scribes
Krielstone Stone Scribe Elder
Trollkin Champions (Leader and 4 Grunts)
Fell Caller Hero
Troll Whelps

this is sort of a meat and potatos list. it brings the champs to handle heavy armor, but madrak can do this as well, so can the fellcaller. the blitzer offers a bit of ranged ability, as can the spray from the fellcaller. the trolll axer has thresher, so that makes him a solid choice to end hordes of infantry, he also has a really good animus.

the only troll warlock i use regularly is Grim Angus. a ranged warlock that has alot of oddball spells and abilities that really screw with the enemy.

Thanks, looks interesting, any other suggestions are welcomed

got a lot of reading to do I guess, learn a whole new game system

cheers

Papasmurf

Champions are your friends. I take two full units in most games with Borka and they can really lay the smack down upon anything.

I take only two beasts with Kegslayer, two units of Champs, the champ UA hero, a champ hero, two fell callers and a Stone.

Its a crazy amount of Weapon Master and multiple heavy infantry models.

Would be great if I understood half of what you just said

total noob to hordes/warmachine, plenty of other experience though

Like the heavy beasts though champs look good, really like WWI MG's in trolls hands, is that unit any good?

cheers

Papasmurf

Trolls excel at HTH. Their ranged units can be good but most of the synergies they have work with their melee skill.

That said, you can make them work with ranged units. Grim Angus (warcaster) supports ranged well and Calandra (warcaster) supports most anything because she alters the dice rolls.

You will certainly want at least one tarpit unit to bog the enemies units down. Typically these are Fennblades or Kriel warriors.

Not sure what the rules are about mentioning other sites but there are extensive tactics articles and list building advice to be found elsewhere.

Google is your friend.

J--

If you could direct me I would appreciate it, surfed for some stuff but seems a little out of date?

I am starting to see that Hoarlok likes beasts, Angus shoots, Madrak beats stuff not sure about the others, sound about right?

really just starting so the more info I can get the better

cheers

Papasmurf

I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.

Not a troll player but have been on the receiving end. You might give Janessa Stonetide a look, her mobile wall bit has screwed up MANY of my plans against them.

Cerebrium wrote:I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.

Note that you should probably take everything on BattleCollege with a grain of salt. It's a decent place to get a quick overview of what models do, but their knowledge of how rules work is rather lacking most of the time.

I don't think I could recommend Trollblood Scrum more highly.

PapaSmurf wrote:If you could direct me I would appreciate it, surfed for some stuff but seems a little out of date?

Troll Scrum is a great resource. Here is a link to the Trollblood community elsewhere in the ether...

Troll Secrets

I'm a fairly new Trollblood player myself and I've found this to be an excellent source.

J--

Thanks guys, good looking stuff!

cheers

Papasmurf

Laughing Man wrote:

Cerebrium wrote:I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.

Note that you should probably take everything on BattleCollege with a grain of salt. It's a decent place to get a quick overview of what models do, but their knowledge of how rules work is rather lacking most of the time.

QFT. I have come across rules and tips that don't work quite the way that they say it does. But it does give a decent outline of most models, and they do have some good ideas, but make sure that you double check a lot of the rules for the cool ideas you see on there. Of course, that's just how wikis are.