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I've kind of lost track, is this the conservative generation? They've alternated so many times I get confused.



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Recent college grads sour on Obama, surveys say
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A very large proportion of recent university graduates have soured on President Barack Obama, and many will vote GOP or stay at home in the 2012 election, according to two new surveys of younger voters.

“These rock-solid Obama constituents are free-agents,” said Kellyanne Conway, president of The Polling Company, based in Washington, D.C. She recently completed a large survey of college grads, and “they’re shopping around, considering their options, [and] a fair number will say at home and sit it out,” she said.

The scope of this disengagement from Obama is suggested by an informal survey of 500 post-grads by Joe Maddalone, founder of Maddalone Global Strategies. Of his sample, 93 percent are aged between 22 and 28, 67 percent are male and 83 percent voted for Obama in 2008. But only 27 percent are committed to voting for Obama again, and 80 percent said they would consider voting for a Republican, said New York-based Maddalone.

That’s a drop of almost 60 points in support for Obama among this influential class of younger post-grad voters, who Maddalone recruited at conferences held at New York University and Thomson-Reuters’ New York headquarters.

The bad news for Obama was underlined May 19 with a report by a job-firm Adecco that roughly 60 percent of recent college-grads have not been able to find a full-time job in their preferred area. One-in-five graduates have taken jobs far from their training, one-in-six are dependent on their parents, and one-in-four say they’re in debt, according to the firm’s data.

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Overall, roughly one-third of young voters have some college education, and one-half have college degrees, said Conway. Many are underemployed or unemployed, they’re worried about their debts and economic trends, and they’re worried about the value of their educations, she said. In 2012, she said, “I suspect a fair number will return to Obama, but maybe not enough, and not in the [swing] states where he needs them,” she said.

Those states include Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Indiana, Virginia and Iowa, she said. All were won by Obama in 2008, and all were lost in state-wide elections to GOP candidates in 2010, she said.

The GOP is making some progress towards earning their votes, Maddalone said. For example, 38 percent of his respondents said the GOP is “doing a good job addressing and engaging with young professionals,” and 58 percent said they would consider voting for the GOP “if you felt that Republicans were doing a good job addressing and engaging with young professionals.”

Only one-in-six of his respondents voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2008, and 80 percent of those said they would vote GOP again, said Maddalone.

“People have had time to reflect on how they voted in 2008, and now they’re thinking about whether they have a job or like their job,” said Maddalone. As their trust in the federal government shrinks, they’re becoming more self-reliant, as their attitude shifts from “‘yes, we can,’ to ‘yes, I can,’” he said.

This shift, he said, “is not really being discussed.”

Still, there’s a wide gap in priorities between the millions of crucial swing-voters in swing-states — Ohio, Florida, Virginia, for example — and Maddalone’s group of mostly male, urban, and upwardly-mobile professionals.

Many of those swing voters have already pulled the lever for GOP candidates in 2010, but 59 percent of Maddalone’s respondents said the GOP is still not “doing a good job addressing and engaging with young professionals.” This gap isn’t merely created by the parties’ economic platforms. One in six of the respondents said would not vote GOP even if the GOP was “doing a good job addressing and engaging with young professionals.”

Some of those gaps were evident in a recent survey by California-based RK Research. One thousand college students ranked education, economic and health care as their top three issues, but credited top marks to the GOP for its stance on military issues and a “business-friendly environment.” The students ranked the GOP low on environmental, immigration and gay-rights issues, but they also ranked those last two issues as a low priority.

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500 Students?
Not really a large pond there...
I honesly don't understand American politics so i can't comment on why this is happening...

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Well in general the young generation is generally pretty liberal. However its cyclical, since the Me generation about every generation tends to bend more cnservative or more liberal. Its fun to watch but I've lost track.

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Maybe this generation just likes being contrary?

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Perhaps they want a choice other than Rep/Dem and so will form their own party, a third party... the WILD party!

   
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A 2 Party system doesn't really seem fair in the people come to think of it...

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purplefood wrote:Maybe this generation just likes being contrary?


Thats kind of my point. Every generation is trying to be contrary with the prior one, which really means they all act, dress, and generally think the same.


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Everything has happened before and will happen again.

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Frazzled wrote:Everything has happened before and will happen again.


The British shall rise again!

Also, I am disapointed my Alice Cooper reference has gone un-noticed :(

   
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I only really know one person who has terribly strong feelings on the president either way. Most of my friends have a decidedly neutral opinion.

I mean he's certainly far better than the alternatives. That isn't saying very much, but meh, whatever.
   
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SilverMK2 wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Everything has happened before and will happen again.


The British shall rise again!

Also, I am disapointed my Alice Cooper reference has gone un-noticed :(


For some reason my head is popping with the real wild child song.

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SilverMK2 wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Everything has happened before and will happen again.


The British shall rise again!

Also, I am disapointed my Alice Cooper reference has gone un-noticed :(

We will?
Awesome sauce...
I call dibs on Argentina.

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NO. Texas calls dibs on Argentina. ALL YOUR LATIN AMERICAN HOTTIES ARE BELONG TO US!

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This is a bad article. The claimed drop of 60 points is not valid as the comparison of "I voted for Obama" and "I will definitely vote for Obama" is not uniform. The guy who wrote this should be ashamed.

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Frazzled wrote:NO. Texas calls dibs on Argentina. ALL YOUR LATIN AMERICAN HOTTIES ARE BELONG TO US!

Frazzled as much as i would like to cede Argentina to you it is the British that shall be rising.
You can be my governor...

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I think they're finally realizing that in spite of all his sound bites and speaking ability, he is just another politician, either unable to accomplish anything against the crushing bureaucracy that is the federal government, or unwilling to try. He is not the great messiah that they thought he would be, nothing has really changed, and so they're disenchanted. Makes complete sense.

   
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Reading polls can be frustrating. One poll taken by the AP a few weeks ago gave the President a 60% approval rating and it stated that the President was a lock for re-election. When you looked at the 1000 or so people polled, the vast majority of them were Democrats.

For all anyone knows, those 500 college students/grads were from the south or midwest, which is more conservative.

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Probably work

Step 1: Promise change to idealistic young people.
Step 2: Read articles about same kids 2-4 years later who are trying to figure out what happened to all the jobs they were promised for going to college. Find out they're saying they're being bitter about lack of 'change'.
Step 3: Laugh all the way to the bank.




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Step 4: People on Dakka then point out that polls can be made to say whatever you want them to.

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daedalus wrote:Step 1: Promise change to idealistic young people.
Step 2: Read articles about same kids 2-4 years later who are trying to figure out what happened to all the jobs they were promised for going to college. Find out they're saying they're being bitter about lack of 'change'.
Step 3: Laugh all the way to the bank.




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Step 4: People on Dakka then point out that polls can be made to say whatever you want them to.

I propose we name this, Nick Clegg syndrome.

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The best thing to come out of American politics is Rick Santorum's "Google Problem."

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