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For fluff reasons i need to include mepiston in this list but other than that i would like critique on the usefulness of this army.

HQ:

Mephiston, Lord of Death 2XX Points

Elite:

3x Sanquinary Priest W/ Jump Pack 225 Points

Troops:
10x Assault Marines W/2 Melta and PF Sergeant 235 Points
10x Assault Marines W/2 Melta and PF Sergeant 235 Points
10x Assault Marines W/2 Melta and PF Sergeant 235 Points
10x Assault Marines W/2 Melta and PF Sergeant 235 Points
10x Assault Marines W/2 Melta and PF Sergeant 235 Points


Fast Attack:
5x Vanguard Veterans W/ 1x PF 175 Points
5x Vanguard Veterans W/ 1x PF 175 Points

Points total: 2000 Points

I am planning to include the priests with the assault squads to try and maximize my armies Feel No Pain coverage. Any advice on how this army would run is more than appreciated. Thanks!

mephiston is 250

this list would pop four tanks then get handed to by the other tanks

FNP isnt going to help against ap3 ap2 and below

i understand the priest coverage but even 1 squad of three or two would be more beneficial and still cover most of the squads

if you include mephiston where is he going to avoid tank fire for you choose to ds with this army?

Sure mephiston is a powerhouse but in cc and isnt going to survive long on the board if hes the only target on the first turn

vanguard vets are expensive and the only reason why someone would take them would be divine intervention which is a game changer imo

im not much of a fan of suicide ba but if you can pull it off more brownie points awarded to you

I love DoA lists, I play one myself, I don't think it is a suicide BA list, and if done effectively can work out very well. It is one of those armies that either wrecks or fails thou so be ready for that.

I think your list is exactly how a DoA list should be though i would go away from Meph and put in libbies for blood lance, and maybe dante for the instant drop and a honorguard for 4 melta on that instant drop. I don't really know how Meph would fit in this list..

I would also lower the cost of the VV by taking out the power weapons and keeping them as just assaulting tanks with PF, or assaulting semi-nasty combat units. You have enough units there to multicharge any crazy close combat units and wreck them with FC, or with your mobility try to run away from them.

I definately agree to the lack of synergy with mephiston but my primary reason for including him was that this army is going to primarily be used in casual heavy terrain games. I think once i get it build if i decided to take it to tournaments i would swap mephiston with

HQ:
Librarian with Jetback, Shield of Sanguinias and Blood Lance 125 Points
Librarian with Jetback, Shield of Sanguinias and Blood Lance 125 Points

My plan with mephiston for normal games will be to reserve him until hopefully after i have more bodies on the table. Otherwise I appreciate all the comments so far and any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

The main quirk in this list is Mephiston, and I respect your reasons for including him. I have two issues with the rest of it.

First, I think you have too many Priests. I would suggest you try using two, and see if that is enough.

Second, your Vanguard Veteran squads have way too much wargear. VVs are really best used as suicide/tie-up units. They can't be given FNP reliably, as you can't run them with ICs and still use Heroic Intervention, so they fold fairly easily to enemy shooting. It only takes 9 Bolter shots to put one down, pretty easy to come by. I'd suggest just taking a Power Fist in each squad.

If you make these changes, you'd have 290 points to spend. You could take 2 Devastator Squads with 4 Missile Launchers with that, and use Mephiston to protect them. You could also cut only 1 Priest and take another Assault Squad like the ones you have.

I would use three priests, or two priests and a honor guard.

If you take out meph for those two libbies that would make this list very good, but again i understand why you want them.

VVets do need to be cheaper as MrE pointed out, but i believe you have two PFs in your squads. I would just keep it to those PF, maybe meltabombs..maybe.

Do Not take Devastors, i think they go very against the army as a whole, maybe with meph they could do well, but it wouldnt be hard for all of your oppenent's shooting to wipe them off the board. You are talking about 10 marines, maybe 20 marines against an entire 2000 point army. In the books that might be on the marine's side, but not in the boardgame haha. I don't think they are helpful due to their lack of mobility and lack of DS, if anything put a dred in a DP, another assault squad, or landspeeders instead.

OP has been updated to reflect changes to the list. I have been getting alot of feedback about scaling the priests back to 3 for a 2K list so I have done just that. With cutting the fat from the VV squad I was able to fit a 5th full featured assault squad. But with those extra points would I have been better served getting a 3rd VV squad and bumping 2 of them up to 2 PF's? Let me know what you guys think.

I don't like having three VV squads, i would rather go with honor guard then another VV squad cuz you can get more melta or flamers that way. Another assault squad works out well too. VV is really only for that lucky drop down assault and more of them doesn't really help with that since a good opponent will only give you, if any, a few units you can do that assault too. More VV just allow more failures at that assault which means an expensive unit can get shot to pieces.

I believe that a DOA list best HQ are Dante and the Sanguinor, they both work great together. Plus I ready don't understand the logic of Looks Infected, DOA can handled a Mech list.

Mephi dosnt fit in when I run him I keep him near my lib for the coer save and fnp from the priest makes him last longer.

I don't like running the Sanguinor, he just gets shot up too fast and can't join units. How would you run him with Dante?

The only benefit I can see to the sanguinor is he can deep strike. But he is more expensive for a less durable unit from what I can see. Any other feedback on him would be greatly appreciated.

I have seen him slaughter half a 2k marine army (killed something like 980+ points)

But he is not easy to use the guy that played him was a well seasoned vet to blood angles and a long time 40k player and they wernt tournament lists.

So basically he is pricey but can be worth it if you know how to use him he is not easy to use.

Personally Mephi is more fun and usable and over all more angry

I use the sanguinor, but i must admit he is a fire magnet. I try to get him into cc asap, as he usually slaughters most units.

I'd straight up trade Mephiston for 2 Librarians with Shield and Rage, ASM need Unleash Rage to be good assaulters imho. Vanguards need Meltabombs. I'd switch out some Meltas for Flamers to find the points to stick some meltabombs in the vanguards, you'll need the flamers if you hit a ork or nid horde anyway.

@blacksunshine

I understand the play stlye is to drop and shoot a bunch of tanks I'm not sure if it's just me cuz i started with a doa list as soon as I got the codex and wasn't satisfied with dropping troops then possibly be risk of destroyed or get blown to power armor gibs. I guess it was just my luck ever since my local meta/neighbor keeps obliterating me with his guard I've slowly transfer my army to the mech side of the codex

I apologize if I knocked on the doa side of the codex if I did but I'm simplying expressing my opinion

And if the op wants to run a doa list thats perfectly fine

Just be aware that there are scarier things in the game then a handful of tanks and that would be handfuls of tanks

Which I believe that having 8+ target pickers to hunt tanks is less effective then having 10+ target pickers with the same efficiency at the same point limit

If someone can mathhammer it would be most appreated for it's too late for me to do it now