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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 00:21:18
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Poxed Plague Monk
Wichita, KS
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I know they just FAQ'd this question to say that if there is a space available, a character has to move to the front rank. Here is my question:
If I have a unit 5 wide, with a Full Command Group, and Lord character, and a Hero character. If I add another Hero character to the unit, can he got to the second rank? Or must he replace a FC model? I'm leaning toward he CAN go to the second rank since there isn't a spot on the front rank for him. Or would he move a Champion, Standard Bearer, or Musician to the second rank?? let me know what you think.
Thanks Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 00:39:37
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Your command group has priority in the front rank, so if you are 5 wide, with full command and 2 heroes, a third guy can hide in the back. Except now, courtesy of the FAQ, someone could poke the champion in the eye, and pull that third character forward...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 01:28:27
Subject: Re:Characters in 2nd rank
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Poxed Plague Monk
Wichita, KS
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By the same token, if my champion gets killed and my other character moves to the front rank. If i resurrect my champion model, will he displace a character back to the second rank?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 06:45:47
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I would suppose so. As soon as he arrives, he needs to go in the front, so would have to displace somebody.
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“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 09:17:38
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Red_Zeke wrote:I would suppose so. As soon as he arrives, he needs to go in the front, so would have to displace somebody.
That's not completely true. Characters can displace command models while in combat with the step up rule.
If the champ got whacked, and the 3rd character is forced forward, I would say that the champ comes back in the 2nd rank. But, thanks to Make Way, he could displace with the standard or musician to get back into the fight.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 10:05:38
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Cosmic Joe
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Command groups are allways in the front unless they have speciffic permission to not be (bret lance formation), that means the revived chump will indeed push a character backwards.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 17:32:10
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Would this also mean that if you have full command in a unit, it must be 3 wide?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 17:44:06
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Cosmic Joe
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Killjoy00 wrote:Would this also mean that if you have full command in a unit, it must be 3 wide?
If the unit is two wide or less the command group have specific permission to go further back.
It's all explained in the rulebook you might wanna give it a skim.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 17:44:32
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nope. It just tells you command MUSt occupy the first rank, if able.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 18:10:18
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, technically it doesn't say "if able." It says in the front rank or the rank behind.
So this would still prevent a one wide unit if you had 3 command. Because you cannot place the command in the front rank or "in the rank behind." (pg. 92)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 18:22:50
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Cosmic Joe
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Killjoy00 wrote:Well, technically it doesn't say "if able." It says in the front rank or the rank behind.
So this would still prevent a one wide unit if you had 3 command. Because you cannot place the command in the front rank or "in the rank behind." (pg. 92)
That is correct, nice catch
See what you can do by actually reading the rulebook
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/22 18:31:18
Subject: Characters in 2nd rank
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I had read the rulebook beforehand, thanks though. Maybe you are the one that should be reading it more closely
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