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Do the children in the 41st milenium go to school? I've read some of the fluff but can't find anything about it.

Thanks

RaptorsTallon wrote:Do the children in the 41st milenium go to school? I've read some of the fluff but can't find anything about it.

Thanks

Yes they do . The quality depends on the planet and how rich they are.

The children of officers (or the more accomplished enlisted men) who are killed in battle are sent to the Schola Progenium, where they are trained for various high profile and important positions (commissars, stormtroopers, Sisters of Battle, being the most well known ones, but by no means the only ones).

Melissia wrote:
The children of officers (or the more accomplished enlisted men) who are killed in battle are sent to the Schola Progenium, where they are trained for various high profile and important positions (commissars, stormtroopers, Sisters of Battle, being the most well known ones, but by no means the only ones).

They'll also take any orphans at all who manage to get the attention of the school. So education is kind of better if you're an orphan.

Is education done through the churches, or is it a separate organization?

Both. But don't think this means that church-based education is lax. The Schola Progenium is run by the church, and it's effectively the best standard education available.

The church-based education is anything *but* lax. Basically, think of all the stories we have of harsh military and religious schools of our own world, and then crank it up a few notches, and you have the Schola Progenium.

I want to say that, in one of the Gaunt stories, Gaunt himself mentions that he still bears the scars from a caning he received in the Progenium for some infraction or another. May have been another IG-related story, however.

Schola Progenium isn't a standard school.
Standard school is probably fairly harsh but i doubt it is military harsh.

I think orphans get accepted more readily, as I believe the majority of the SOB are infact orphans

EDIT: Double post!

RaptorsTallon wrote:Do the children in the 41st milenium go to school? I've read some of the fluff but can't find anything about it.

Thanks

Like everything else in the 40K universe, it varies wildly from place to place, and from bracket of hereditary wealth to not-so-much of the previous. AFAIK, the Schola Progenium is the only sort of "standard" education throughout the Imperium ("standard" being a very, very loose term in the 40k universe) and is more or less only for the orphans of Imperial officials.

Really, the only mention of any sort of education in the fluff that didn't have to do with the military arms of the Imperium was in Ravenor (I don't recall which book, I got the omnibus), where a school of sorts picked up regular orphans to train them in job skills. Of course, there was more than met the eye, but I won't spoil it. If I remember, Ravenor's psyker (Patience?) came from that school.

Oh no, the "standard" in the Schola Progenium is not loose. It is a very rigid standard set across the galaxy. The Inquisition has a strong hand in ensuring this is maintained-- the top five percent of all stormtroopers become Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, serving the Inquisition directly. They wouldn't benefit from this if that top five percent were of low quality.

And then of course the Sisters also require standard training to ensure they fit in with the Orders, both Militant and Non-Militant. And the Commissariat also requires standard training for a similar reason...

Games Workshop put a million IoM worlds into the WH40k universe primarily so almost anything and everything that could conceivably happen does.

Star Trek like worlds where everyone is clean, suffers not from want and is educated (in Ultramar Segmentum most likely) check.

Feudal or forge worlds with no schools, check.

Hive worlds with fine schools in the upper spires, factory worker schools mid spire and underage brothels in the under hive, check.

Except they still manage constants...
The Schola Progenium trains Commissars, Sisters (both militant and non-militant) Storm troopers and other servants of the Imperium. This does not change from world to world.
'Regular' schooling does change.

UselessSage wrote:forge worlds with no schools, check.

Forgeworlds have schools. They're just not run by the Imperial Cult. They're run by the OTHER church.

Thanks for all the Info guys!

The Schola Progenium will maintain standards accross the galaxy.

all other schooling organizations will likely have a good amount of divergence as far as curriculem.

My guess would be courses in History, Literature, Math, and the Sciences.

Math and Science being possably on the same level as we have now, heavly superstitionalized naturally, but these courses would likely only be for Ad Mech aspirants or wealthy students.

The school Patience is rescued from in a Ravenor short story is actually an orphanage, though such facilities are required to provide basic education to their wards.

There's nothing like "public school" for all citizens, some worlds will have standard education but that will be run by the Planetary Governor's government as opposed to the Imperium. The only Imperial educational system are run by the Ecclesiarchy and other such bodies to educate Inquisitors, Priests, Officers, and so on.

My guess is on most Hive Worlds though there's no real education except for the wealthy ones on the top of the Spire.

Sure, but literacy is actually fairly common. While many of the lowest end of society are illiterate, most people know at least the basics of low gothic.

I think that they would have school, but for most it would be really bad. Basic Low Gothic and basic arithmetic should do.

If you are rich, you can study anything. But as you can imagine, there's not many of them.

Whilst writing that, I had a thought. Could any of you see a University Planet, like Oxford or Cambridge, but for really rich kids, or is that completely implausible.

Daily lessons include:
- how to assemble a hellgun
- how to aim a flamer
- killing the kindergarten is fun (oh wait, not that 1)
- Assambling grenades
- How to find heretics
- Kill a heretic
- Run away for the inquisition
- Learn what Xernos are
- Daily lesson: pray for the emperor

I beliieve it would more accaurately be called tutoring in groups, for example in Blood REaver (or Sould Hunter i am not sure which) the main character's mother puts him through schooling though he is consider stupid therefore it is most likely they have to go to some extent otherwise he would have just been kicked out

There are entire worlds dedicated to housing the printed archives of Administratum reports. There could very well be "Scholar Worlds" that are, in essence, planet-spanning universities.

Basic, primary education, however, would remain at the local planetary level, probably run (or heavily influenced) by the Ministorum.

do they saport LD in the schools 40k ?

saport?
What would LD be in this context?

Nightwalker wrote:I beliieve it would more accaurately be called tutoring in groups

That's what all organized schools essentially are.

Cain recalls his Engineseer companion singing a childrens song commonly taught at schools.

The Wheels of the Land Raider crush the heretics.

purplefood wrote:saport?
What would LD be in this context?

learning disability's and i cant spell sarport

dagsta2 wrote:

purplefood wrote:saport?
What would LD be in this context?

learning disability's and i cant spell sarport

Right then...
I'm not sure but i find it unlikely they would offer more support for those with learning disablities than those without.

its highly unlikely they help those with learning disabilities.



depending on the severity, the disability might not interfere with education and could just be overlooked. they also might have chemicals to treat diseases like autisim(just give a kid a jab and he's good for the rest of his life)

sad as it is, those with major disabilities might be Servitorized.


and anyone can hold a lasgun and pull a trigger.

Grey Templar wrote:its highly unlikely they help those with learning disabilities.



depending on the severity, the disability might not interfere with education and could just be overlooked. they also might have chemicals to treat diseases like autisim(just give a kid a jab and he's good for the rest of his life)

sad as it is, those with major disabilities might be Servitorized.


and anyone can hold a lasgun and pull a trigger.

:( but why is it unlikely