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When Spacemarines are inducted into a Deathwatch Killteam, they don the black armour of the deathwatch correct? It's also true that they are not permanently placed in a killteam, but are only temporary. So, what happens when they go back to their chapter? Do they keep the black armour, to keep the honour of being inducted into a killteam, or is there literally no indication of being in a deathwatch team after you serve your time?

They may re-paint their armour entirely or keep one arm silver. They do keep a single Deathwatch shoulder pad to show their service. They may have other things like a modified weapon or a knife made from Tyranid carapace.

There's practically no indication of being in the Deathwatch after you've served out your service. Most of what you learn/gain there is not really physically representative anyways.

You get a nifty shoulderpad, maybe a nifty Bolter/sword, and your armour is repainted back into your Chapter livery. That's about all the physical evidence. Some might keep the black of the Deathwatch, but I can't think of any off the top of my head that would.

You probably get some kind of special purity seal or oath paper saying that you served in the Deathwatch, or some sort of thing.

I'm pretty sure they don't actually don a new suit of armour however, I think they paint their own armour black, (leaving one shoulder in chapter colours), I may be remembering wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went down in one of the Ultramarine books when Uriel Ventris joined the Deathwatch.

purplefood wrote:They may re-paint their armour entirely or keep one arm silver. They do keep a single Deathwatch shoulder pad to show their service. They may have other things like a modified weapon or a knife made from Tyranid carapace.

Is there a source on this fluff?

Kanluwen wrote:There's practically no indication of being in the Deathwatch after you've served out your service. Most of what you learn/gain there is not really physically representative anyways.

You get a nifty shoulderpad, maybe a nifty Bolter/sword, and your armour is repainted back into your Chapter livery. That's about all the physical evidence. Some might keep the black of the Deathwatch, but I can't think of any off the top of my head that would.

I wasn't sure sure about it, I'm painting my librarian, and I want the model to have some signification that he was in a deathwatch killteam at one point. I was thinking something more along the lines of armour, I'll probably end up doing the shoulder pad thing.

somecallmeJack wrote:You probably get some kind of special purity seal or oath paper saying that you served in the Deathwatch, or some sort of thing.

I'm pretty sure they don't actually don a new suit of armour however, I think they paint their own armour black, (leaving one shoulder in chapter colours), I may be remembering wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went down in one of the Ultramarine books when Uriel Ventris joined the Deathwatch.

Whoops xD I meant to say 'don' as in paint black. Also, a lot of Ultramarines get into a Deathwatch killteam at some point, so it would not be /as big/ of an honour for them to get into one, as it would be for lesser chapter.

Do you reckon?

I'm pretty sure its not like football, where its no big deal if Brazil gets into the world cup, but it would be if Kyrgyzstan did. I would imagine its an equally big honour, no matter which chapter you're from.

zzaxle wrote:

purplefood wrote:They may re-paint their armour entirely or keep one arm silver. They do keep a single Deathwatch shoulder pad to show their service. They may have other things like a modified weapon or a knife made from Tyranid carapace.

Is there a source on this fluff?

The Deathwatch RPG supplements, the Deathwatch Index Astartes article, etc.

Kanluwen wrote:There's practically no indication of being in the Deathwatch after you've served out your service. Most of what you learn/gain there is not really physically representative anyways.

You get a nifty shoulderpad, maybe a nifty Bolter/sword, and your armour is repainted back into your Chapter livery. That's about all the physical evidence. Some might keep the black of the Deathwatch, but I can't think of any off the top of my head that would.

I wasn't sure sure about it, I'm painting my librarian, and I want the model to have some signification that he was in a deathwatch killteam at one point. I was thinking something more along the lines of armour, I'll probably end up doing the shoulder pad thing.

What you could do is the Deathwatch shoulderpad and his left arm in silver. If you can get a more ornate elbowpad, you could represent a distinctly Deathwatch piece of kit that is used by the Deathwatch as a kind of 'ID card' that lets them get past most security systems.

somecallmeJack wrote:You probably get some kind of special purity seal or oath paper saying that you served in the Deathwatch, or some sort of thing.
I'm pretty sure they don't actually don a new suit of armour however, I think they paint their own armour black, (leaving one shoulder in chapter colours), I may be remembering wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went down in one of the Ultramarine books when Uriel Ventris joined the Deathwatch.

Whoops xD I meant to say 'don' as in paint black. Also, a lot of Ultramarines get into a Deathwatch killteam at some point, so it would not be /as big/ of an honour for them to get into one, as it would be for lesser chapter.

Honestly, a lot of Chapters get into the Deathwatch. Even minor Chapters will have a few Deathwatch veterans amongst their ranks. I highly suggest you check out Fantasy Flight Games' Deathwatch RPG if you want more info on the Deathwatch though.

Kanluwen wrote:
What you could do is the Deathwatch shoulderpad and his left arm in silver. If you can get a more ornate elbowpad, you could represent a distinctly Deathwatch piece of kit that is used by the Deathwatch as a kind of 'ID card' that lets them get past most security systems.

That seems the most reasonable idea tbh, the silver arm is fairly characteristic.

I do not remember where I read it but I seem to recall the Deathwatch keep one pauldron the same from their chapter and one Deathwatch black after they return.

I have no knowledge on this so I'll ask here. Does the Deathwatch recruit from the Grey Knights? I assume not. Are there any other chapters that are exempt for non-punitive reasons?

They don't recruit from the grey knights but they do from the Exorcists chapter which is a "sucessor" to the Gk's.

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:They don't recruit from the grey knights but they do from the Exorcists chapter which is a "sucessor" to the Gk's.

Calling them a "successor" to the Grey Knights is kind of insulting to the Grey Knights. And no, the Exorcists are not one of the Chapters that commonly contribute to the Deathwatch.

Most of the Chapters that are 'exempt' from Deathwatch contributions tend to be Chapters that are on the brink of completely vanishing, are highly specialized, or have some variance that makes them 'unsuitable' for Deathwatch service.

Kanluwen wrote:

zzaxle wrote:

purplefood wrote:They may re-paint their armour entirely or keep one arm silver. They do keep a single Deathwatch shoulder pad to show their service. They may have other things like a modified weapon or a knife made from Tyranid carapace.

Is there a source on this fluff?

The Deathwatch RPG supplements, the Deathwatch Index Astartes article, etc.

Kanluwen wrote:There's practically no indication of being in the Deathwatch after you've served out your service. Most of what you learn/gain there is not really physically representative anyways.

You get a nifty shoulderpad, maybe a nifty Bolter/sword, and your armour is repainted back into your Chapter livery. That's about all the physical evidence. Some might keep the black of the Deathwatch, but I can't think of any off the top of my head that would.

I wasn't sure sure about it, I'm painting my librarian, and I want the model to have some signification that he was in a deathwatch killteam at one point. I was thinking something more along the lines of armour, I'll probably end up doing the shoulder pad thing.

What you could do is the Deathwatch shoulderpad and his left arm in silver. If you can get a more ornate elbowpad, you could represent a distinctly Deathwatch piece of kit that is used by the Deathwatch as a kind of 'ID card' that lets them get past most security systems.

somecallmeJack wrote:You probably get some kind of special purity seal or oath paper saying that you served in the Deathwatch, or some sort of thing.
I'm pretty sure they don't actually don a new suit of armour however, I think they paint their own armour black, (leaving one shoulder in chapter colours), I may be remembering wrong, but Im pretty sure thats how it went down in one of the Ultramarine books when Uriel Ventris joined the Deathwatch.

Whoops xD I meant to say 'don' as in paint black. Also, a lot of Ultramarines get into a Deathwatch killteam at some point, so it would not be /as big/ of an honour for them to get into one, as it would be for lesser chapter.

Honestly, a lot of Chapters get into the Deathwatch. Even minor Chapters will have a few Deathwatch veterans amongst their ranks. I highly suggest you check out Fantasy Flight Games' Deathwatch RPG if you want more info on the Deathwatch though.

The point I was trying to make is that the Ultramarines have had a lot more people recruited into deathwatch than other marines, I'm playing Marines Malevolent, and painting first company, so it's definitely not implausible for them with their exemplary war record, and the fact that first company is made completely of veterans.

Everyone's first company is made up of veterans...

purplefood wrote:Everyone's first company is made up of veterans...

That's what I said...

zzaxle wrote:

purplefood wrote:Everyone's first company is made up of veterans...

That's what I said...

My bad.
I thought you were talking about the Marines Malevolent rather than the 1st company of all chapters.

zzaxle wrote:
The point I was trying to make is that the Ultramarines have had a lot more people recruited into Deathwatch than other marines, I'm playing Marines Malevolent, and painting first company, so it's definitely not implausible for them with their exemplary war record, and the fact that first company is made completely of veterans.

Which isn't necessarily true. There's been more people with the Ultramarines geneseed recruited, but that's just the law of averages coming into account. The UM geneseed is one of the most stable and widespread--so of course it's gonna crop up.

Like Purplefood said though: every First Company is made up "completely of veterans". It's called the veteran company for a reason, zzaxle.
If you're just looking for something to make your veterans or sergeants more visible--Deathwatch pads are the way to go though.

That's what I'm doing for my DA Successors. Every 'Veteran Sergeant' is getting a Deathwatch pad. From the Devastators to even finding a way to give my Scout Squads some kind of clearly 'Deathwatch service' for the veteran sergeants.
When it's done: it should look kinda nice, giving a nice little offset to the normal look of the rest.

purplefood wrote:

zzaxle wrote:

purplefood wrote:Everyone's first company is made up of veterans...

That's what I said...

My bad.
I thought you were talking about the Marines Malevolent rather than the 1st company of all chapters.

It's cool

And thanks guys for the input, my army appreciates

Painting the armor just like us

Kanluwen wrote: finding a way to give my Scout Squads some kind of clearly 'Deathwatch service' for the veteran sergeants.
When it's done: it should look kinda nice, giving a nice little offset to the normal look of the rest.

Please PM me when you have found a way to do this. I have some scouts that were Deathwatch and need shoulder pads for them.

D.fear, pretty much it's looking like the best way to do Scoutwatch is going to be maybe making a press of the Deathwatch shoulderpad from the Tactical/Command boxes and just transferring the sigil.

Or alternatively, the Inquisitorial rosette can simply work.

Thanks Kanluwen

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:They don't recruit from the grey knights but they do from the Exorcists chapter which is a "sucessor" to the Gk's.

Executioners founding chapter is the Imperial Fists. The only similarity with GK is that the exorcists specialize in anti daemon combat also, however they're no where near the awesomeness of GK in this regard.

No GK are never deathwatch.

You can also have no indication of deathwatch duty. Scout Sgt Cyrus of the Blood Raven served in the deathwatch and has no badge or any other indication of his service other than his unorthidox tactics.