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Don't you guys think that IG veterans should have a bigger variety of stuff, or designated roles in the squad?

Example:

a 10 man squad including

a medic,
a Heavy Weapons guy,
Support,
Marksman,
Vox Caster,
Sergeant,
and 4 regular IG...

Would this be too complicated or would some of these actually work?

Not really, they already have Voxes, Support Gunners, Heavy Gunners, Officers, Marksmen. No change needed at all.

Ehhh vets are already one of the best choices in the IG arsenal, they dont need change compared to say penal legionnaires or ogryns

If anything, they need to be nerfed.

I could see this as potentially being a good template for a kill team, but nothing beyond that.

If anything this could be a special SpecOps unit, not the standard thing for Vets.

Veterans already have access to pretty much the entire IG arsenal - there's literally no infantry weapon they can't take. Medi-Packs might be an interesting addition to their options but I feel those things are generally reserved for officers (not to mention they're barely worth their points on T3 models). Other than that, there's really not much that COULD be added to them without expanding the IG arsenal.

Also, having designated roles in the squad is already do-able, by you - unfortunately due to the way squads fire generally you'll want to reserve them for Kill Teams games. To wit, this Veteran Squad is basically what you describe above:

Veteran Squad* w/
- Heavy Bolter (Heavy Weapons Guy(s))
- Sniper Rifle (Marksman)
- Vox-Caster (Vox Caster)
- Meltagun (Support)
- Sergeant w/ Power Weapon
- 4 Lasgunners

* - Don't ever use this squad outside of Kill Teams or you will be sorely disappointed.

I wouldn't mind an Assault Veteran doctrine which gives them an extra CCW and WS4.

That'd be worth thirty points for sure.

Melissia wrote:I wouldn't mind an Assault Veteran doctrine which gives them an extra CCW and WS4.

That'd be worth thirty points for sure.

That would be fun times. You would have to answer the difficult question of how any of them lived through enough Close Combats to become "Veterans" (then again, how anyone becomes a Veteran with a Plasma Gun is also beyond me...)

KestrelM1 wrote:

Melissia wrote:I wouldn't mind an Assault Veteran doctrine which gives them an extra CCW and WS4.

That'd be worth thirty points for sure.

That would be fun times. You would have to answer the difficult question of how any of them lived through enough Close Combats to become "Veterans" (then again, how anyone becomes a Veteran with a Plasma Gun is also beyond me...)

good idea Melissa. allow upgrades for plasma and melta pistols and hand flamers as well.
id assume that vet squads of cc ers are made up of the few individual survivers of squads that have been assaulted.

Nah uh, melta pistols are RARE.

Even compared to plasma pistols.