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When Pulling out casualties I have always done so in a way that keeps my unit in coherency but after doing a little research and re-reading some rules I think I may be able to get an some template relief by pulling them out of coherency. So to set the scene I have a 30 mob of boys that takes 6 wounds from a large blast template, normally I would pull out 6 models that keep the unit in coherency, instead I will pull out 6 models to get maximum spacing between them, thus pulling them out of coherency. Now being spaced out they are less susceptible to templates for the remainder of the turn.

My next turn I move the Mob up 6 inches and return them to coherency and carry on as usual. As far as I can tell there is no drawbacks for moving in and out of coherency against templates. Because My boyz mob remains fearless until it falls below 10 models I would not have to worry about failing a check and falling back without the ability to regroup.

I did a search and didn't really find anything relevant to this situation, so if you know any reason that this wouldn't work please let me know before I try busting it out and cause conflict.


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Due to wound allocation rules it's fairly common for units to lose coherency after an enemy shooting phase, but you are also able to select casualties that would cause a coherency 'problem'. The mandatory solution is that you must move back into coherency ASAP, including with your run move if it is required.
   
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In some previous editions it was indeed required to pull casualties while maintaining coherency.

There is no such requirement in the current rules. It wouldn't work with the wound allocation rules the way they are.

 
   
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The only downside is that you may lose a few inches of movement in the process.
   
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The other downside is that if your squad has heavy weapons you must move and con not shoot.


keep your Lootas in coherency when taking out casualties.

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Central Wisconsin

With 30 Boy mobz the models are either all the same, or the heavy weapons (Big Shootas) are assault weapons anyway so moving and shooting would not be an issue. I am just looking for a way to reduce the amount of wounds my Boyz mobs take from template heavy opponents.

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The Lootaz he mentioned do have heavy weapons.

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Central Wisconsin

Jidmah wrote:The Lootaz he mentioned do have heavy weapons.


I am aware that lootas carry heavy weapons. However The Boyz mobs I originally wrote the question about do not carry heavy weapons, so the point is moot.

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The exact same situation can easily happen when fielding 15 lootaz, so it's not.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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I do something similar with guard blobs. The movement next turn will easily fix any discrepancies of coherency by the time I get where I am going.

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Central Wisconsin

Jidmah wrote:The exact same situation can easily happen when fielding 15 lootaz, so it's not.


You are correct about being able to take 15 lootas. But Once again you are missing the fact that my question was about Mobs of Boyz.

My question has been fully answered, this thread can be closed.

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Joshawa wrote:As far as I can tell there is no drawbacks for moving in and out of coherency against templates.


You know, someone might have the same question and search for this thread, or some reader might even become aware of the problem caused by pulling models out of coherency when the unit has heavy weapons. Don't act like giving extensive answers is a crime.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
 
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