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So ,I remember reading about the Terrax Guard in the back of the (recentley outdated) Imperial Guard codex. Outside of this I have heard very little about them. My questions are as follows: 1. What is the overall strength of said regiment?
2. have they won or even participated in any major conflict?
thanks!

Hmmm, I can't remember the specifics, but weren't they the ones drawn from a world that was (essentially) one huge Schola Progenium?

Yes, if I remember correctly it's an entire regiment of Commissars under their own structure of Command. Other than that I know absolutly nothing.

WH40KGuy757 wrote:Yes, if I remember correctly it's an entire regiment of Commissars under their own structure of Command. Other than that I know absolutly nothing.

...They couldn't all possibly be Commissars.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

WH40KGuy757 wrote:Yes, if I remember correctly it's an entire regiment of Commissars under their own structure of Command. Other than that I know absolutly nothing.

...They couldn't all possibly be Commissars.

This is true, I just checked Lexicanum (which surprisingly had VERY little info on them) and it simply says that there is a very large amount of both commissar's and storm troopers. So, it's obviously not comprised entirley of Imperial Commissar's.

straight from the codex:

terrax is the site of a mojor schola progenium facility, the schola excubitos. the schola progenium train many imperial agents for war, notably storm troopers and commissars, and their methods are rigorous and effective. the tithed regiments raised on terrax have been trained under the auspices of the scholae excubitos and are truly molded in its image almost as an regiment of commissars.

perferred weapons:
meltagun, lascannon

They aren't actually a regiment of commissars...
They are like a regiment of commissars...

I believe that their ranks and files are COMMISSAR CADETS. they MUST pass this FINAL TEST in order to become a commissar.

=^.^=

Lone Cat wrote:I believe that their ranks and files are COMMISSAR CADETS. they MUST pass this FINAL TEST in order to become a commissar.

=^.^=

Still can't work. Even Commissar Cadets have the power to enact summary executions. Throughout a whole regiment, this is obviously going to be a serious problem.

Again, true. Perhaps they are simply styled after commissars? I realise that a whole regiment of commissars wouldnt last very long. They'd have killed each other off faster than almost any enemy could.

WH40KGuy757 wrote:Again, true. Perhaps they are simply styled after commissars? I realise that a whole regiment of commissars wouldnt last very long. They'd have killed each other off faster than almost any enemy could.

There really isn't much info on them at all. I don't even recall them in the ld White Dwarf mag where the listed the famous IG regiments.

It appears that it's the fact that they've been raised on a Schola Progenium world, under close watch of the commissariat, which accounts for their appearance.

The bit about them being like a regiment of commissars is meant to allude to the fact that they are all extremely well disciplined and steadfast in their devotion to the Imperial cause, not that they are actually commissars or that they have the powers that come with that title.

Which probably means that they won't get along very well with other regiments.

That would be stupid, to have a Regiment full of commissars. Who will they execute for failure then?

Brother Coa wrote:That would be stupid, to have a Regiment full of commissars. Who will they execute for failure then?

well they would never fall back, since everyone would be dead with a single bolt round to the head.

Your a storm trooper befor your a commisair. I'ts a regement of storm troopers LED by commasairs. (Sorry about spelling.)

Armadeus wrote:You're a storm trooper before your'e a commissar. It's a regement of storm troopers LED by commissars.

this, and the thing that was said about them having the discipline of a regiment of commissars, not the actual powers of commissars, imho

Armadeus wrote:Your a storm trooper befor your a commisair. I'ts a regement of storm troopers LED by commasairs. (Sorry about spelling.)

Neither of these are true. They're apparently just Guard trained with Schola facilities and instructors, albeit not for as long as stormtroopers or commissars, as opposed to being trained in PDF or munitorum facilities. Some of the tithe may be payed in stormtroopers, or else the regiments are more likely to get some of the graduating class of stormtroopers attached to them when tithed, but the regiments themselves aren't stormtroopers; stormtroopers are already slated for inquisitorial or munitorum use, so they could hardly be used to pay a tithe, except for cadian kasrkin or their equivalents, perhaps.

And stormtroopers don't advance to commissars, they're trained in the same facilities but in separate programs: stormtroopers are trained for Spec Ops duty and high intensity combat, Commissars are trained to oversee more conventional troops, maintain their discipline, and take command should their officers be found lacking/dead (which is a form of lacking, I suppose, since one lacks the ability to lead once dead...).

Correct answer from guardsman 68:

the tithed regiments raised on terrax have been trained under the auspices of the scholae excubitos and are truly molded in its image almost as an regiment of commissars.

Source he didn't mention: Codex Imperial Guard, 4th ed, page 60.


Looking at their doctrines, they are like stormtroopers.
- independent commissars ( ie more of them running around freely )
- 4+ armor save
- stormtroopers as elite and addtional 0-3 as standard choice ( thus 0-6 )
- infantry platoons with access to +1 ini and +1 ld ( formation )

Terrax guard was the example of a stormtrooper heavy army in the codex.
The pic of that codex entry may give the impression of commissar tough ( clothing/headgear )...

There is some background about them in the IA8 storyline about them being stationed around the Forsarr sector, and previously were stationed on Kastorel-Novem before losing to the Orks.

Currently there are Terrax guard regiments in the battlegroup defending the Lycaeus system from the next Ork Waaaagh!

^ I love how that is just STUPID NAMES that mean NOTHING, instead of useful bits of info that can be incorporated into the game.

They fought on the fields of mooseknuckle in m38.230 then again at tittiymus 5, 6, and 8. Then they fought the crimson Castilians on ixan 2. OK GREAT now what color was I supposed to paint them??

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Armadeus wrote:Your a storm trooper befor your a commisair. I'ts a regement of storm troopers LED by commasairs. (Sorry about spelling.)

Neither of these are true. They're apparently just Guard trained with Schola facilities and instructors, albeit not for as long as stormtroopers or commissars, as opposed to being trained in PDF or munitorum facilities. Some of the tithe may be payed in stormtroopers, or else the regiments are more likely to get some of the graduating class of stormtroopers attached to them when tithed, but the regiments themselves aren't stormtroopers; stormtroopers are already slated for inquisitorial or munitorum use, so they could hardly be used to pay a tithe, except for cadian kasrkin or their equivalents, perhaps.

And stormtroopers don't advance to commissars, they're trained in the same facilities but in separate programs: stormtroopers are trained for Spec Ops duty and high intensity combat, Commissars are trained to oversee more conventional troops, maintain their discipline, and take command should their officers be found lacking/dead (which is a form of lacking, I suppose, since one lacks the ability to lead once dead...).

Many Commissars first serve in one of the elite Storm Trooper companies and as such are well versed in the tactics and brutality of warfare.

From the 5th Ed IG codex pg.32

An entire regiment of commissars? So if they fail one command check, they all execute each other?

Ashryu wrote:

Many Commissars first serve in one of the elite Storm Trooper companies and as such are well versed in the tactics and brutality of warfare.

From the 5th Ed IG codex pg.32

That's not saying they are stormtroopers first, but that they're assigned to them in a commissarial capacity as a sort of final stage of training, so that they're not only in the most intense of combat conditions, but surrounded by the very best human soldiers, and so likely both to survive and to pick up skills and mannerisms from the only forces more elite than they are by that point.

Omegus wrote:An entire regiment of commissars? So if they fail one command check, they all execute each other?

haha, the battlefield echos with a hundred bolt pistols going off at once, and everyone dieing. I WANT THIS ARMY

Ashryu wrote:

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Armadeus wrote:Your a storm trooper befor your a commisair. I'ts a regement of storm troopers LED by commasairs. (Sorry about spelling.)

Neither of these are true. They're apparently just Guard trained with Schola facilities and instructors, albeit not for as long as stormtroopers or commissars, as opposed to being trained in PDF or munitorum facilities. Some of the tithe may be payed in stormtroopers, or else the regiments are more likely to get some of the graduating class of stormtroopers attached to them when tithed, but the regiments themselves aren't stormtroopers; stormtroopers are already slated for inquisitorial or munitorum use, so they could hardly be used to pay a tithe, except for cadian kasrkin or their equivalents, perhaps.

And stormtroopers don't advance to commissars, they're trained in the same facilities but in separate programs: stormtroopers are trained for Spec Ops duty and high intensity combat, Commissars are trained to oversee more conventional troops, maintain their discipline, and take command should their officers be found lacking/dead (which is a form of lacking, I suppose, since one lacks the ability to lead once dead...).

Many Commissars first serve in one of the elite Storm Trooper companies and as such are well versed in the tactics and brutality of warfare.

From the 5th Ed IG codex pg.32

It says mnay, not all.
We already know that Commissars are trained in the Schola Prognium, some might be trained to be commissars after they are stormtroopers.

The Terax Guard are not all commissars. They are LIKE commissars. Numerous users have said this already.

Terrax guard make a passing appearance in the new IG codex as well. Pg 24 (right side) says that they, and the Cadian 8th, were a combined forced that destroyed Chaos Space Marine Lord Brule on Treconondal, which occurs just as Creed's career is on the ascendant.

Of their doctrine or strength, the codex makes no mention.