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How would a skink ie, walking lizard, be able to blow a dart out of a pipe?

They don't have lips! Therefore they wouldn't be able to directly blow all the air through the pipe, unless they shove it into their throats when they fired, and being quick to fire, i don't think thats he case

Lizards don't have opposable thumbs either. But Lizardmen also appear to have those. Man, GW really didn't do their homework.

i can handle opposite thumbs since they are lizardmen and thus have humanish features.
Although Codex: Lizards would have been cool

Maybe they create a wind tunnel with their tounges and stick the blowpipe in that

Your complaint now makes no sense.

'I can accept opposable thumbs because they are Lizardmen and should have humanish features. But lips and windpipes? They're Lizardmen, they shouldn't have humanish features!'

Pick one. Not both.

They have human hands and the ability to walk upright, however they still retain scaly skin, tails, claws and a lizard mouths, which doesn't have lips

So a human hand can grip a weapon
A lizards mouth cannot blow a blowpipe

Which they have both of

Also compare the quotes:

i can handle opposite thumbs since they are lizardmen and thus have humanish features.

'I can accept opposable thumbs because they are Lizardmen and should have humanish features. But lips and windpipes? They're Lizardmen, they shouldn't have humanish features!'

Completely different

MikZor wrote:How would a skink ie, walking lizard, be able to blow a dart out of a pipe?

For a similar reasons that toads are able to use powerful magic

MikZor wrote:They have human hands and the ability to walk upright, however they still retain scaly skin, tails, claws and a lizard mouths, which doesn't have lips

So a human hand can grip a weapon
A lizards mouth cannot blow a blowpipe

Which they have both of

Also compare the quotes:

i can handle opposite thumbs since they are lizardmen and thus have humanish features.

'I can accept opposable thumbs because they are Lizardmen and should have humanish features. But lips and windpipes? They're Lizardmen, they shouldn't have humanish features!'

Completely different

Um...WHAT?! In your second quote you say you can accept SOME humanish features, but not others? There is no 'completely different' aspect to this statement. You might have had a case until you said "these human features are ok, but these other ones are not." That's where this post failed.

Kroothawk wrote:

MikZor wrote:How would a skink ie, walking lizard, be able to blow a dart out of a pipe?

For a similar reasons that toads are able to use powerful magic

This sums my views up on this quite well. So its too much of a stretch of the imagination for skinks to have blowpipes. But you see no problem with half ton anthropomorphic toads on floating palanquins that cast magic by sheer will of thought? That doesn't quite stack up.

WHFB isn't earth. There are things (lots) that are earthlike for convenience sake, but just because a dog barks here doesn't mean it can't meow in WHFB. If they were true lizards, they wouldn't be able to function whatsoever in semi-cold climates, and they wouldn't be birthed fully-formed from pools knowing complex job tasks and languages.

Maybe they push the blowpipe all the way back to their windpipe. Maybe it's magic. Maybe it's snot-powered. Whatever. If they couldn't use it, they would have different weapons.

Um...WHAT?! In your second quote you say you can accept SOME humanish features, but not others? There is no 'completely different' aspect to this statement. You might have had a case until you said "these human features are ok, but these other ones are not." That's where this post failed.

The models clearly have a lizards head, which is a lizard feature and does not have lips. They also have hands, which is human feature and can grip weapons.
I accept those features are ok because they have them, in all the artwork and models they have lizards heads thus do not have lips.

Also that second quote was from -Loki-, the first one was mine.

Maybe they push the blowpipe all the way back to their windpipe.

I'm agreeing with this, it seems the most logical(In a make believe world filled with magic )

This sums my views up on this quite well. So its too much of a stretch of the imagination for skinks to have blowpipes. But you see no problem with half ton anthropomorphic toads on floating palanquins that cast magic by sheer will of thought? That doesn't quite stack up.

This is explained by magic though, blow pipes aren't magical, and skinks are either (priests don't use blow pipes)

Toads on Earth don't have complicated mental faculties.

Lizardmen toads do, which isn't magic, it's just how they are.

I think, if you're going to enjoy these sorts of games, you're just going to have to suspend disbelief. None of it is meant to be realisitc in any way whatsoever. GW operate on a 'rule of cool'. Whatever looks cool gets done.

Lizardment are based, visually, on ancient cultures like the Mayans, Incas and Aztecs. Skinks are going to use blowpipes because it looks cool. Just accept it and play the game.

The old ones did it.

MikZor wrote:How would a skink ie, walking lizard, be able to blow a dart out of a pipe?

They don't have lips! Therefore they wouldn't be able to directly blow all the air through the pipe, unless they shove it into their throats when they fired, and being quick to fire, i don't think thats he case

Cuz they are lizardman , of course they can do man like stuff :'D

How do bulls stand upright and wield massive axes? How do men from the north grow grotesque mutations on their body? Or, even further, how do regular dudes summon magical vortexes that suck people into oblivion?

All these reality-bending circumstances are hurting my compeltely logical and scientific mind!!!!!!!


Nah I'm j/king. Seriously it's just speculative fiction. Just go with it.

How do men from the north grow grotesque mutations on their body?

For a second there i thought you wrote: How do men from the north grow grotesque mostaches on their body?

How do bulls stand upright and wield massive axes? How do men from the north grow grotesque mutations on their body? Or, even further, how do regular dudes summon magical vortexes that suck people into oblivion?

Most of this is explained(loosely) by magic however, point noted however, the warhammer world isn't the same world as ours, i know this, i was talking about within the warhammer world, maybe bulls evolved(or were created) to stand upright, who knows, maybe in the warhammer world lizard are able to blow darts? Which what you guys were saying, so they can because they just can

Besides they're awesome in game

Ok can I just rewrite the original argument so its not jumbled.
Lizardmen poses features of both eg man hands and lizard heads.
A lizard head especially those depicted on models could not create the seal a blowpipe requires.
However my counter to this is. Got a problem take it to the Mage priest!

The models are not sufficiently detailed for you to know whether they could form a seal or not. Further, you have no idea what their skin is like. Their whole heads, while blue and scaley-looking, could be as moldable as jell-o.

You're comparing a miniature to an Earth creature. It's not Earth. Earth lizards have nothing to do with WHFB whatsoever. For all we know every lizard in the WHFB universe has human-like lips and their mating call is "shaka-laka-boom-boom."

Their whole heads, while blue and scaley-looking, could be as moldable as jell-o.

This makes sense, or a roll of skin to seal their mouths. Makes sense in both world too
Rolling with this, thank you sir!

mating call is "shaka-laka-boom-boom."

They're spawned from a pool though, but since i can't unhear it i shall always perceive this as their warcry

No, I meant like regular crawly lizards in WHFB you see at the side of the road. It's not Earth. They don't eat flies, they eat pasta. They don't blend in with their surroundings, they carry knives and join street gangs.

I.e., just because an animal on Earth does something, doesn't mean that a magical creature that sorta kinda looks like it on an entirely different fantasy world shares anything in common with it.