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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 13:55:46
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am a bit of confused.
Take, IG Colossus for example. It has a minimum firing range of 24 and maximum of 240" and cannot fire directly. What does it mean?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 13:59:29
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Stormin' Stompa
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Take a look in the rule book on "Ordnance Barrage" weapons.
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Normally Ordnance Barrage" weapons have the option of firing directly, requiring LOS and ignoring the minimum range, but Colossus is specifically prevented from using this option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 14:01:03
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Firing directly means you ignore the minimum range and factor in BS while rolling for scatter.
Firing indirectly means you must be between the two ranges and it scatters the full 2D6 when an arrow is rolled.
It is the difference between firing over an obstacle or firing straight at the enemy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 14:18:42
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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CGM - not true
WHen firing indirectly, i.e. as Barage, if you are IN LOS you still subtract BS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 14:20:54
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Hierarch
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cgmckenzie wrote:Firing directly means you ignore the minimum range and factor in BS while rolling for scatter.
Firing indirectly means you must be between the two ranges and it scatters the full 2D6 when an arrow is rolled.
It is the difference between firing over an obstacle or firing straight at the enemy.
-cgmckenzie
It's also ths difference for how you determine cover saves....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:14:42
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Dammit, I forgot about that, Nos. I always have my basilisk parked behind obscene amounts of cover, so it never actually has LOS until 0-hour. If it can see what it is shooting at, something has gone wrong. For my army atleast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:27:14
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I know this sounds like a noob question, but can anyone tell me exactly what page the "ignores minimum range" part is on? Every time it comes up(the rest of my group thinks it still applies) and I look I can't find it in the 5th ed book. I'd really like to show them that I'm not crazy and that it's not a holdover misremembrance from 4th and 3rd..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:29:27
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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It means that you can shoot anywhere under the maximum range.
So, with my basilisk I could drop a shell 1 inch away or 240 if I have an unobstructed view. Not that I would want to drop it closer than 12, my scatters normally do things just to spite me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 15:35:48
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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cgmckenzie wrote:It means that you can shoot anywhere under the maximum range. Re-read my post. I asked about the PAGE NUMBER it's on, not what it means.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 17:04:19
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Platuan4th wrote:I know this sounds like a noob question, but can anyone tell me exactly what page the "ignores minimum range" part is on? Every time it comes up(the rest of my group thinks it still applies) and I look I can't find it in the 5th ed book. I'd really like to show them that I'm not crazy and that it's not a holdover misremembrance from 4th and 3rd..
It is in the Vehicles Shooting Section, which is on page 58. Look under Ordnance Barrage weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 17:05:32
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Page 58, top right corner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/11 19:59:37
Subject: Fire Directly??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thanks guys.
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