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Currently I run
7 nobs with 3 PK, 4 BigChoppa, bosspole, banner, painboy, cybork
in a battle wagon with RPJ, deffrolla, rigger, zaapgun

After a few games, I realized that I really don't need 9 powerfist attacks (which is awesome) so I'm going to drop it down to 2 PKs. This is also because I don't always use nobs but when I do, I put mr. thraka with them. 12 PK + 7PK on the charge is just overkill.
I put cybork bodies because well, its nice to be able to charge into monstrous creatures / grey knights and not be completely defenseless. For some reason, I pass only 30% of nob fnps so that extra 5++ adds a bit of durability against small arms and nonpower attacks.

How do the dakkanese fit their nobs?

I usually put Ghazghkull Thrakka(or my warboss) with my burnaz, as they support each other way better and they like killing the same stuff. Nobz are usually fine on their own. You're also using one big choppa too much, the painboy may not have one(or is that unit 8 orks total?).

Whether you still want to drop the PK, I'd also drop the big choppas down to 3. No vehicle/MC is going to survive 2-3 PKs and 3 Big Choppas anyway, and a regular nob is just as good in close combat. I also add one or two combi-skorchas to any nobz mob to thin out anything hiding in cover before charging it. Agree on everything else, especially the 30% FNP

Currently doing 6+1 painboy. So 3 choppas, 3 PKs
I can't really drop the number of big choppas down any further
I'm tempted to put 1-2 more models in there just to beef up wounds.
I've been playing against alot of bone swords and Gks recently. The whole, wound allocation shenanigans is actually killing my nobs real fast even when I don't build my nobz around that.
I'll have to check out that kombi skorcha. My problem is, everyone at my club does the, remove closest model so you're out of charge range thing. Especially against IG where they die in multiples of 10

1. PK/Waaagh!
2. PK/Pole
3. BC/Rokkit
4. BC/Rokkit/Runt
5. BC/runt
6. Painboy
All borked out.

I do usually stick my warboss (non gahz) in here too and he has a PK, bork, and squiggy. Throw them in a deffrolla equipped wagon and your ready to go!

This squad even without the boss (I use him to take str8 shooting and benefit from FnP when he can) this squad will still destroy anything it touches while taking mostly minor damage in return...

If you are facing lots of bonesowrds and ID weapons why are you still taking the nobz? Dump the points into something that wont go down as easily or cost as much...burnas in wagons are awesome! As are more lootas, rokkit buggies, hell agianst nids tankbustas too!

Ive never played against GK before...but if your nobs are constantly dying to ID then its time to find something to replace them!

I tend to run 3 pk, 6 big choppa, painboy, bosspole, waaagh banner and mixes of either eavy armor or combi weapons for wound allocations. I tend to attach an HQ to assist and make it a massive target.

I run 10 nobs (havent played in a while, so Ill do my best to remember this) and my warboss, all nobs + warboss with eavy armor and all with big choppas (Except for warboss with PK). They go into a trukk and basically move in and bail as fast as possible. I usually field another squad, wether it be flamas or tankbustas, in another trukk in order to make two high priority targets.

I'm not a Tau player but my best friend is and we run at each other all the time. I hate it when he has a tuck or looted wagon or any transport of any kind full of nobs. This is the load out he likes most.

10 nob with heavy armor one upgraded to painboy 3-4 powerclaws with waaagh banner and one with bosspoll and combi-scorchas on the powerclawed nobs. the rest are wounds to cover for the claws.

To all of you trolls don't hate me for the layout the ork advice I give is based off my experience playing against them.

Shake Zoola wrote:
If you are facing lots of bonesowrds and ID weapons why are you still taking the nobz? Dump the points into something that wont go down as easily or cost as much...burnas in wagons are awesome! As are more lootas, rokkit buggies, hell agianst nids tankbustas too!

Ive never played against GK before...but if your nobs are constantly dying to ID then its time to find something to replace them!

vov <---shrug btw

I personally don't like tailoring. I always try to keep a general mindset when making lists regardless of the opponent. Had this bullcrap happen to me which solidified my disdain for tailoring: I'm playing CSM against a GK player who's running a purifier list. Right before deployment he tells me "Yeah I'm taking terminators instead because I didn't know you were playing khorne bezerkers"
I should've deployed 3 vindicators and be like "Yeah I'm taking vindicators instead because I didn't know you were playing terminators"

Also, recently there's been a bit of influx of GK players so I expect that to die out soon. In fact, just 2 days ago, I saw one GK player rage when he lost against tyranids and declared that he's going to switch armies.

everyone wrote: WOUND ALLOCATION SHENANIGANS

seriously guys? Shame on you for abusing game mechanic to increase survivability. I'd totally do it if it didn't cost extra random points.

I guess I'm going to do 7 nob, 2pk if an ghazzy is with them. 3pk if no ghazzy.

It's perfectly possible to plonk down nine diversified nobz without any stupid upgrades

I dont think its shenanigans TBH. Taking Ghaz with Snikrot is shenanigans. Making Nobz super tough is also rather fluffy as well as awesome in game terms. Nobz are mini warbosses and they should be hard as hell to take out. Besides IDing them, its going to be a long drawn out process with you being the loser most times.

I personally think 3 pks in a nobz mob is 1 to many, if the game was a huge points game then sure, but I run 6 or 7 90% of the time and they just dont need that many PK attacks, 2 does the job nicely.

I've been running this lately with good times.

7x Nobz, All Cybork, Painboy, PK, PK/Kombi-Skorcha, PK/Waaagh Banner, Big Choppa, Big Choppa/Kombi-Skorcha, Big Choppa/Kombi-Rokkit, Big Choppa/Kombi-Skorcha/Bosspole – 310 Pts

I'll throw a Warboss in the mix with his PK, Kombi-Skorcha and Attack Squig as well.

The total of 4 Skorchas is a great thing to have in the event you may need to bring a mob down to size before assaulting (I've even wiped a squad of dire avengers with the skorchas and then assaulted another squad of DA's in CC and wiped those in the same turn.)

Unfortunately Mind War killed my boss last time before I could get in the mix.....I will avenge his death on my rematch though.....

Dodgywop wrote:Unfortunately Mind War killed my boss last time before I could get in the mix.....I will avenge his death on my rematch though.....

Said all the players who fight Eldar... Cursed Mind War!!! It kills my Squad leaders and HW/SW models way to often!!!!

Hytanthas wrote:I'm not a Tau player but my best friend is and we run at each other all the time. I hate it when he has a tuck or looted wagon or any transport of any kind full of nobs. This is the load out he likes most.

10 nob with heavy armor one upgraded to painboy 3-4 powerclaws with waaagh banner and one with bosspoll and combi-scorchas on the powerclawed nobs. the rest are wounds to cover for the claws.

To all of you trolls don't hate me for the layout the ork advice I give is based off my experience playing against them.

I havent got a painboy yet, Ill have to make myself one later.
I dont use a whole lot of PKs because they get quite pricing, and fielding 3 more PKs means no Heavy Armor and 10 less boyz.
Id rather just take a bunch of big choppas instead. Theyre less pricy and 2 big choppas instead of one PK (10 Pts instead of 25) will work just fine to take out guys.

Really it depends on what your fighting. Id much rather have 2 pks guaranteeing me ID dead guys then a chance of them making armor saves and ignoring all my attacks. Not to mention the PK is meant for more then just killing minis, its so if your assaulted by a Dread you have a really good chance of scraping it, or if you have little choice, to assault vehicles and tear holes in them. Also, youll change your mind the day you lose the assault because SM saved from your bigchoppas, and tagged 1 wound on you, and you fail your LD test twice......and with a low I your probably going to fail that sweeping advance. Ouch


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