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Anyone take a psyassualt cannon dread over the psyrifle? I like keeping the s10 attack, furthermore with rending and s7 I am finding a rip up higher armor eaiser then rifle. Anyone else use them over rifle? Thoughts?

I've been tending to compromise on only a single Autocannon with bolts lately. But then, the only Dread I've run with my GKs so far is a single Ven Dread.

I'm actually taking 3 "psycannon" dreads (I call it that since AC w/ bolts is same profile.) in my 2000 pt list. They are hitching rides on my stormravens. So far I like them soley for the reinforced aegis. Also gave me a neat conversion opportunity to make psycannons for the dreads out of the heavy psycannon bit for the NDK and the frag cannon from the furioso kit.

With only one Autocannon its a choice of 2 tl s8 shots or 4 s7 shots with rending. I have a hard time picking the s8.

The Grundel wrote:With only one Autocannon its a choice of 2 tl s8 shots or 4 s7 shots with rending. I have a hard time picking the s8.

With two autocannons you get four S8 shots, and twice the range of the assault cannon. If the dreads sit in the backfield having no S10 CC is not a huge deal.

I think it has a place in a Stormraven list.

the lower range is compensated by having Rending.


a compromise by having an Auto-cannon and a Doomfist is also interesting.

If you're running them up close, Psycannon Dreadnoughts are fine. They're good support for your infantry by providing their Reinforced Aegis bubble and having an S10 power weapon attack while keeping a reasonable amount of ranged firepower.

However, as backfield shooters, Psy-autocannons are much better (2x Range, twin-linked, +1S). When it comes to taking out things like Eldar/DE transports efficiently, I'd much rather have the Twin-Linking, extra range, and S8 (for the AV12s anyway).

Couple of quick notes on the PsyCannon dread.

If you only have the Assualt cannon base, don't forget that your storm botler also gets the psybolts. 2 more S5 shots help.

You can get the Assualt Cannon and the Auto cannon. Yes, you only get 2 at 48, but you get 2 more shots at 24 range and can now actually Pen AV 14.

Oftern overlooked, don't forget the dreadnoughts CC weapons is a nemesis weapon also. S10 Force weapons do help from time to time.

Personally, I like the Assualt cannon, stormbolter/fist, psybolts and true silver armour. Why true silver? Deamons and GK's . Get in a big unit and let thier multiple s4 power weapons clang away... suddenly you are dishing out a bucket of s6 bonus hits. Or you want to make a big units of deamonnette cry, just charge. They may glance you a few times, but poof goes the unit.

Autocannon/doomfist is kind of splitting the dreadnought's focus. With only one longranged, decent strength weapon it's not that threatening a fire support unit, and it's not really a threatening close range unit due to a lack of shot count and attacks.

If you're going to take the doomfist, I think it's more efficient to just focus on the close support role and bring the pseudopsycannon or melta. There's definitely potential for an aggressive Stormraven list with close range Dreads in it.

I originally started with close support 'psycannon' dreadnoughts but have since moved to long range 2 x TL autocannon, psybolt. Partly because stormraven delivery is a bit all or nothing in my experience and partly because there's a lot of low AV transports out there that the autocannon just chew up at a range that doesn't allow the contents to do much for a turn or two.

I like the idea of pseudopsycannon dreadnoughts best though.

Chubs wrote:Couple of quick notes on the PsyCannon dread.

If you only have the Assualt cannon base, don't forget that your storm botler also gets the psybolts. 2 more S5 shots help.

You can get the Assualt Cannon and the Auto cannon. Yes, you only get 2 at 48, but you get 2 more shots at 24 range and can now actually Pen AV 14.

Oftern overlooked, don't forget the dreadnoughts CC weapons is a nemesis weapon also. S10 Force weapons do help from time to time.

Personally, I like the Assualt cannon, stormbolter/fist, psybolts and true silver armour. Why true silver? Deamons and GK's . Get in a big unit and let thier multiple s4 power weapons clang away... suddenly you are dishing out a bucket of s6 bonus hits. Or you want to make a big units of deamonnette cry, just charge. They may glance you a few times, but poof goes the unit.

thats actually an interesting tactic with Truesilver as they don't have a choice NOT to hit you as all models must fight if able.


normally there arn't any rammifications for attacks which can't hurt a vehicle, but this does throw a curve ball.

I can see the sense in giving a venerable dread the assault cannon & doomfist combo. The BS5 offsets the loss of twin-linking, and the doomfist capitalizes more on the WS5. As a dread that's going to want to be closer to the enemy anyway, the loss of range wouldn't be as big a deal.

But I'd take a couple of standard psyflemen first before adding one of those.

I see the merits of the psyflemen dreads but I think that they are rather bland and boring (and IMO a little undercosted). As has been pointed out, psycannon or other short range dreads have their place in SR builds where the additional close range support is wanted/needed.