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Hi Dakka, ive been playing around with WoC lists and im trying to find a strong theme so i thought about a Norse list.

Simply just-
Marauders
Marauder Horsemen
Ogres (modeled to look like giant ogres)
Giants (As above)
Norse Lord (like in the brettonia book)
Norse BSB (exalted Champion)
Perhaps a Sorcerer, Maybe Lore of death.

Now im not really bothered with marks, but if i was to take a mark, it would be Khorne. i dont really want "Chaos" i want Nordic.

So dakka, what do you think i should compose my list like, i tend to do 2K games, and ive tried a few options, just cant set them streight. Thanks!

So you want Norse?: http://battlereporter.blogspot.com/2010/07/norse-new-warhammer-fantasy-battle-army.html

yes, but via a gw book

I think it's completely doable, marauders are awesome. Go markless if you want or khorne or hell nurgle, I pay 10 a pop for the same stat line you would get with a GW Marauder with nurgle.

Mok with gw fc 50 men.
Mot hw shield mot 50 men.
Mon with what ever.

Slaanesh giants.

Trolls with throgg?

I wouldn't use troll, I'd use ogres (more marauder[b][i]ry) but slaanesh giants, sounds good probably khorne core, but with gw the strike last, and they're I is quite good so it will hinder them a little, I thought, what about flails?

What about Wulfrik? I pretty much like the whole barbarian theme and wulfrik is kinda awesome - fluff wise more than stat wise but anyway.
Dogs are needed as well, they´re with the barbarians all the time.

Gorbad is right.

Marauders with gw are awesome asl but str 5 all the time is amazing they are rediculous (in a good way) flails are nit too great on big blocks try both but in the end I'm sure you will choose gw they are just too good.

Fair so Wilfrik, Marauders with GW

Shields?
Armour?
MOK?

and ive not seen hounds bee effective recently.

arnt they a little underpowered?

Well, are great to screen your stuff plus they´re damn fast. Just dont upgrade I´d say. With 5 or 6points a dog they arent that expensive but well, you may just use a couple of them for WM hunting duties.
Flails are great if you just use small units but that´s pretty expensive and may not that effective in your theme.

For Wulfriks gang I´d take shields and gw for the better punch and to withstand more shooting.
Armor and shield plus hw isnt that great imo, except ya need a big anvil block.

So...Wulfrik and the Marauders are Shields and GW?

and the other marauders are just GW?

alos, for ogres, what upgrades would you recomend?

abd character wise, what would you say?

Sorcerer?

BSB?

Lord?

and what gear?

thanks, great response so far

I have no WoC AB at hand, but if you can afford, take gw and shields for every "hammer unit" I´d say. Might even take light armor but that´s a part more experienced WoC players may give you advise.
BSB is more or less a must have nowadays so yeah, I´d take one. Sorcerer well, lore of death ( you can take that lore I think) comes handy. Might even take 2 sorcerers for some magic duty - take them as shamans for fluff duties and be ok with. Exalted,exalted khorne heroe and the khorne champion are great choices for the barbarian theme imo. They´re looking somewhat great and a little bit of conversion - mostly barbarian heads - and they should fit in your army. The mounted sorcerer is a nice choice as well. He pretty much looks like an old and grumpy sorcerer.

khorne champion
exalted khorne Lord
exalted Lord
sorcerer

Leave most units as 'undivided' and without a mark, then take the mark of khorne for one unit and make them your berserkers.

Trolls are far more nordic than ogres.

Also, a dragon riding lord would be thematic, especially if you could get one like the old 'wyrm' looking forest dragon or something similar.

Werewolves and werebears were always a Norse theme in Warhammer Fantasy's old times. Perhaps as forsaken?

I think I'd have the units as khorne with gw and shields, and yea I'd like feedback, on the armour if possible please, and I understand nordic would be more themed to dragons and trolls, yet I'd rather take the ogres and giants, simply because they're more a barbarian pirate list than norse.
And I wouldn't take undivided, I don't belive there's any benefit other than points for it.

well, hw&shield plus light armor means 5+ save and 6+parry.
Mounted it means you will lose scout but have 4+ save.

How many points per marauder of foot? If it´s cheap, better get the extra model. I usually go with the >10 get shields and armor, <10 dont care about armor it wont be cost efficient in most cases.
On the other hand, if you go with gw and shield, may the light armor comes handy in some cases. There´s a lot S4 on field nowadays so the light armor would count vs shooting and that´s it - most of the time.
But if you go all khorne why not getting gw´s and shields for every unit? No need for anvil stuff, just hack´n´slash theme. But I think it would be wise to get at least one big block with hw shield and may even light armor to have some sort of an anvil unit.
Besides MoK I wouldn´t take any mark. It doesnt really fit imo even if there are some great novels around where other barbarian clans stick with MoN and MoT. But that´s pretty much the clans lead by witches or grumpy shamans.

Cool thanks!
So I'd go with gw and shields on all units I think, perhaps one hw, shield and la unit, perhaps with my bsb to make him survive, and I totally agree, mok is the only way to go
Anything else you'd suggest?

I see no reason to buy marauders light armor ever, all those points ought to go to more marauders. Shields + MoT is a concept, but really I think it's only a question of flails or great weapons, no matter what mark you give them. Most people twitch and go great weapons automatically, however I think it might be best to have half and half between them and flails. Something like 2x 40-50 marauders w/ full command + great weapons, 2x 40-50 marauders w/ full command + flails.

On marks, I think I prefer them in this order: MoT, MoS, Unmarked, MoK, MoN. 6+ ward for 0.5 points (or less) is mindblowingly cheap and works against everything; totally ignoring panic and fear is still utterly viable in 8th, and extremely cheap; unmarked is even cheaper ; frenzy, while giving you an extra attak in the front rank, does little for the rest of the unit (given, ItP is often legit), and can actually be quite bad due to mandatory pursuit and overrun, which smart players will exploit; and the only thing really going for MoN is that WS5 elite troops hit you on 4+ instead of 3+ ... but who cares, marauders are there to fight and die and fight some more.

- Salvage

Thanks salvage, I like the idea of that extra 6+ ward save, but I'm still not sure, that extra attack and immune is tempting. I wouldn't go for the other two, and with unmarked I'd feel robbed lol[i]!
With the mot would you still give them shields? They've got a 6+ no matter what, and for that 40 50 pts it costs that could buy other usefull things

A good player with the proper chaff will force your frenzied stuff to overrun, turn your flank and crack your huge hordes by fighting them on a flank where the horde's advantage doesn't exist. True though, if you have multiple frenzied units, then this is less likely to happen (less table space for these flank attaks to occur), but your battleline will be pulled all over and unable to support itself. Assuming that that was part of your plan

Personally, I wouldn't take shields on a marauder ever. Great weapons or flails, no matter the mark. The dudes are so cheap, let 'em die.

- Salvage

Fair, ill probably just use mot with gw then, supported with ogres and ill put armour on them. Wizard with lore of death, and lord and bsb