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here is my list for a upcoming tourney let me know what you think

1 terminator lord with mark of nurgle and plague bringer daemon weapon
4 terminators with mark of nurgle 2 combi-melta and 2 combi-flamers

7 plague marines
rhino

Kharn
8 berzerkers
1 champ with fist
rhino

9 berzerkers
1 champ with fist
rhino

10 lesser daemons

3 defilers w heavy flamer and extra combat arm

The PM need some special weapons. Either 2x Melta or Plasma, just something. Also I hope you gave your Zerker Champs Icons cause if not then only your Temies can summon those Daemons, which aren't that good. Switch them out for...anything.

I like the idea of 3 Defis, but you have close to zero long range anti-tank. Yes a S8 AP3 large blast is good, but when it scatters its useless. If you're dead set on useing three all the more power to ya, I'd just recommend having RACs instead of HF since I think you have enough crowd control anyway.

caim wrote:7 plague marines
rhino

I'll second Billie Joe's advice, two special weps are a must. MGs.

caim wrote:Kharn
8 berzerkers
1 champ with fist
rhino
9 berzerkers
1 champ with fist
rhino

The rhinos ought to have EA to ensure delivery of Kharne and crew.

caim wrote:10 lesser daemons

Like BJ indicated, you'll need a few more icons for the LDs.

Take out the demons and Plagues, and put in 2 CC Dreads, since you already have 3 Defilers.

i gave them a icon i just forgot to put it on the list i posted. I played the list last night against space marines and was crushed thoroughly. i seem to do well against most armies except vanilla marines which i have never beaten i have tied a few times. I seem to be doing really well with my Daemons army against the same people which is making me want to switch up my list all together to mirror something closer to it. I love my defilers but armor 12 is so easy to pop it seems like taking multiple would models would make more sense. Also I love Kharn but he gets insta-killed way to easily without eternal warrior. So here is my revamped list let me know what you think.

2 Daemon Prince w/ wings and lash

3 obliterators
3 obliterators
2 obliterators

7 plauge marines w/ melta and flamer
1 champ w/ combi melta and powerfist
rhino w/ combi-melta and extra armor

9 Khorne Berzerkers
1 champ w/ powerfist and melta bombs
rhino w/ extra armor and combi-melta

9 Khorne Berzerkers
1 champ w/ powerfist and melta bombs
rhino w/ extra armor and combi-melta

i can also drop a few oblits for some more troops if needed or lesser daemons.

caim wrote:7 plauge marines w/ melta and flamer
1 champ w/ combi melta and powerfist
rhino w/ combi-melta and extra armor

Make the special weps the same to focus the unit's purpose. I'd go all MGs. Why EA on the PMs' rhino? Eh, it is not a major thing. But it's points that could be spent on another troop **(see below).

caim wrote:9 Khorne Berzerkers 1 champ w/ powerfist and melta bombs rhino w/ extra armor and combi-melta

9 Khorne Berzerkers 1 champ w/ powerfist and melta bombs rhino w/ extra armor and combi-melta

You could save points on the Melta-bombs as he already has a PFist, which will be STR 9 on the charge if you're hitting AV14.

caim wrote:i can also drop a few oblits for some more troops if needed or lesser daemons.

As has been discussed, LDs will need points spent on icons And you're right, in that another troop is needed (for competitive 1850). KhorneBs tend to get too busy and maybe not be able to do objective duty after assaults *however*, don't look to cut the Oblits yet--

My 1850 list is close to yours (IIRC):

PM crew x7 w/ 2 pgs
PM crew x7 w/ 2 flamers, rhino
KB crew x10 w/ 2 plas-pistols, Skull Champ PW/MBs, rhino EA/blades
CSM x9 w/ MG, Lash Sorcerer, rhino EA (Did I have a Pfist Champ here? I don't think so Been a while ... hmm).
DP wings/lash
8 oblits

So, I think you should keep the oblits. With 2 lashes it makes for a great list. Instead, trim all the combis and rhino upgrades (but keep EA for the KB rhinos). I don't have Champs in my PM crews, because I generally keep them out of h2h, letting the KB unit and DP do the assault duty. The walking PMs pick a close objective and use the PGs on incoming enemies. The others only pick on weakened targets.

**
As pricy as a Aspiring Champion is, an Oblit is just a few more points, and look at what you keep over the Asp/ Champ:
Many guns, PFist *and* T-Armor

It makes more sense to me to cut out the Champions in favor of Oblits.