1+ to hit in CC?

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**Hellstorm**

if you combine Banner of the Barrows from the vampire counts ("All Grave Guard, Black Knights, and Wight Kings have +1 to hit.") with a sword of striking (+1 to hit in CC), and you are attacking something with a lower WS, do you hit on a 1+?

i think yes due to the precedent set by the BRB FAQ:

Q: Does a To Wound roll of a 1 always fail to Wound? (p42, 51)
A: No. Though it is very rare for a model to be able to Wound
on a 1+.

**Ralin Givens**

Thats to wound though....If memory serves under to hit it states a roll of a one always fails

**Davall**

pg 50: "...and a natural dice score of 1 always misses."

**cowpow16**

So would you be hitting on 2+ if you have a higher ws?

**Scarecrow456**

Yes, the best you could do for "to hit" is a 2+. It is possible to wound on a 1+ but it's rare.

**cowpow16**

Dont you wound on a 2+ or if not isnt that considered insta wound?

**Davall**

Rolling to hit has that pesky word "natural" with it, meaning 1's always miss, 6's always hit.

To wound doesn't, so you can wound on a 1+ in the right circumstances. A couple of examples: A Cannon (St 10) with Flaming Sword of Rhuin cast upon it (+1 to wound) vs T8 or lower, Queek Head-Taker in a challenge when his St is 2 or more higher than his target's T (or St 1 or more higher with Flaming Sword in a Challenge).

**cowpow16**

So if a cannon had that cast on it anything T8 or lower would take a wound and there would be no point in rolling for it since there then is no way to not wound.

**Davall**

Without any other effects, yes, it would auto wound in that circumstance.

**nosferatu1001**

Thats exactly what it means.

**Tantras**

Davall wrote:Rolling to hit has that pesky word "natural" with it, meaning 1's always miss, 6's always hit. To wound doesn't, so you can wound on a 1+ in the right circumstances.

Important to mention that despite this, you do still always wound on a 6... which I despise, incidentally.