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gendoikari87 wrote:anyone heard of this, is this legit and what sites were targetted? seems like a massive breach of privacy if they do.
A) It's warrants.
B) Assuming you're in the US, there isn't a specifically stated "right to privacy." The 4th Amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not
be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to
be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
provides some protection of privacy (and some federal/state laws provide additional protection), but in this situation, where warrants have been issued, there's no violation of privacy (barring any malfeasance by the police in obtaining IP records or in presenting evidence to a judge).
C) If you're concerned about this, it's probably because you're pirating stuff. Don't.
gendoikari87 wrote:anyone heard of this, is this legit and what sites were targetted? seems like a massive breach of privacy if they do.
That would be so awesome. Alas I doubt it.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
gendoikari87 wrote:anyone heard of this, is this legit and what sites were targetted? seems like a massive breach of privacy if they do.
That would be so awesome. Alas I doubt it.
Yes. Thanks to my efforts, all illegal downloaders have been dealt with, making this a sketchy rumor at best where the doubters are abducted kicking and screaming into the night, their children ever wondering what happened to Mr. and/or Mrs. Doubter.
gendoikari87 wrote:anyone heard of this, is this legit and what sites were targetted? seems like a massive breach of privacy if they do.
A) It's warrants.
B) Assuming you're in the US, there isn't a specifically stated "right to privacy." The 4th Amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not
be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to
be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
provides some protection of privacy (and some federal/state laws provide additional protection), but in this situation, where warrants have been issued, there's no violation of privacy (barring any malfeasance by the police in obtaining IP records or in presenting evidence to a judge).
C) If you're concerned about this, it's probably because you're pirating stuff. Don't.
Wrong, it's called the ninth ammendment. and there is not enough evidence with IP adresses attained from sites, as those are easily hijacked.
C) I'll do things my way, you keep paying through the nose.
i dont download stuff illegaly. i think the gov't should come down with a hammer of justice and give 1 life sentence for each pirated song!!! jk, but i do think they should crack down
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They should crack down on the sources of the data, eg. the servers for The Pirate Bay. When I torrent something, which is rarely, I only consider myself "stealing" if I put it on a disk. What I download, which is always just a single track from an album that I buy later, I consider to be just a data package, that's on The Internet, a public domain. Once it's there, these large corporations should have no control over it. I'm all for shutting down these websites and thus stopping people from pirating huge amounts of music and movies and then distributing them, but the odd track which I then buy does little to harm anyone.
and while on an individual basis, is fine, but there are probably millions of people with the same attitude, which throughout the course of a year can cost corperations millions of dollars because that is money that they miss out on when someone downloads illegaly for free than actually pays for the song/video/whatever.
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Yes I agree, and I wouldn't do it at all if I didn't then go out and buy the full package. As it stands, I buy a single track from an album, if it's good, I'll buy the album (from a store, as itunes contributes next to nothing to the actual band). If I don't like the track, I honestly take it upon myself to delete it. I do the same for series's. The Ricky Gervais Show is now one of my all time favorite shows. When I was told about it, I downloaded a single episode from their XFM radio shows, said "Well this is amazing" and then downloaded the podcasts back when they were free. My opinion on corporations trying to control the internet still stands.
I know, which is why such websites should be shut-down at source. The Internet is a public domain, barring things like Child-porn and other such disgusting things like animal cruelty, you should be able to search for anything you want, download whatever you want and it shouldn't be controlled by these corporations because of a slightly damaged profit margin.
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A slightly damaged profit margin is not a good thing, if all companies did not care about a small decrease in profit, most companies would not survive. All companies need every dollar they can get and are not a good one if they settle for anything less.
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That is true, but a huge corporation like Sony isn't going to feel the effects of a few million bucks lost to piraters. They have lots of people essentially stealing their stuff, but they can take it. The smaller companies have a lot less people, so they can take it. I'll say it again, I support their attempts to shut down the likes of Pirate Bay at their source, but I do not support them attempting to add filters to my Internet service to justify a few million lost when it isn't even me who is causing it.
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Can take, and should take are different. If someone just stole a book from Borders it would be wrong,yes? Music, Videos and books are all just images and words and images put together. To me, downloading something online illegally and never buying the product is the same as walking into a store and stealing a CD or DVD.
srry, i realise this post jumped around a little bit...
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i dont think they are trying to control the internet, i think they are trying to get the money they are due. Trying to control the internet is what some countries do, which is block sites, and send police "visits" if one of their people watching who does what on the internet catches you.
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dajobe wrote:i dont download stuff illegaly. i think the gov't should come down with a hammer of justice and give 1 life sentence for each pirated song!!! jk, but i do think they should crack down
I disagree, rather than protect that which is being outdated corporations need to be forced to move ahead into the future by going online like a lot of them already are. Offering their services online and on TV in the way Comedy central and the likes do with some of their series is a step in the right direction. Music might be a bit different story but I don't pirate music.
iproxtaco wrote:They should crack down on the sources of the data, eg. the servers for The Pirate Bay. When I torrent something, which is rarely, I only consider myself "stealing" if I put it on a disk. What I download, which is always just a single track from an album that I buy later, I consider to be just a data package, that's on The Internet, a public domain. Once it's there, these large corporations should have no control over it. I'm all for shutting down these websites and thus stopping people from pirating huge amounts of music and movies and then distributing them, but the odd track which I then buy does little to harm anyone.
Amen, actually there was a swiss study that said that music piraters were the ones that spent the most on music. I.E. Download a song illegally, decide they like it, and they get the whole albulm.
dajobe wrote:i was mostly talking about pirated music
Musics a different beast altogether, you can't really put commercials in your music. but as I said the ones who do download them are the ones that spend the most.
Monster Rain wrote:Yeah, because people will keep making music/movies/art for you to enjoy for free. -:S
It's the corporations man!
THey already do, they get their money from advertisements. or theater tickets. Get out of the 90's guys, attempts to crack down on this gak are futile at best. Adapt or die. and the movie and TV industry has chosen to attack the new technology, rather than adapt, a poor decision which only stifles technological advancement.
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