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So i recently found my ork lobba bits for the BW and painted it up and was wondering on what peoples opinions for a BW with a deff rolla, lobba and killcannon. And two big shootas. Also what you bring to the table battlewagon wise.

The most common configuration seems to be deffrolla, big shoota, red paint job and armor plates.

Ah okay. Ill try some combos out and see what they do for me ahha

The killkannon is really bad all around. It's ordinance, so you can't fire any other weapons, it's short ranged, expensive on points and only S7. If you really want a gunboat, rather go with 4 big shootas or rokkits and a kannon/lobba.

Battlewagons exist to get Orks into assault, they are in no way shape or form (effective) shooting platforms. This is even more important with the buff to Deffrollas, which give them some incredible damage output up close and provide a great way to deal with Land Raiders and Monoliths which Orks struggled with in the past.

In short Deffrolla is an obvious choice, so are Armour Plates (you absolutely need to stay mobile) and RPJ (an extra inch of free movement is always nice and its cheap). You take 1-2 Big Shootas mostly to avoid getting immobilised by weapon destroyed results, any shooting weapons won't get to fire much. Boarding Planks and Grot Riggers can be helpful, particularly on a Battlewagon carrying your Warboss (S10 PK attacks) or KFF Mek (keep him moving) but can still be worth if you can find the points to put it on other Battlewagons. The Klaw is rarely useful, its a place to put 5 points if you have absolutely nowhere else to put them imo. Avoid 'Ard Case at all costs.

My battlewagon loadout:

Deffrolla, Armour Plates, Boarding Plank, Grabbin' Klaw, Big Shoota, Grot Riggers

Deffrolla: Obvious
Armour Plates: Glances happen plenty, and I need to keep my mobility.
Boarding Plank: I pack at least one Powerklaw into every Battlewagon. Disembarking for the charge is not always the most useful option - especially against skimmer armies and dreadnoughts.
Grabbin' Klaw: One of the worst nemesis tactics against Orks is to sacrifice skimmers to stop them. Flat out a skimmer 1" away in front of the battlewagons. Grabbin' Klaws are for dealing with Eldar, Dark Eldar, and land-speeders - although occasionally its nice to hold a Land Raider still if you failed to kill it last turn. Also useful if your Ram left you 1-2" short.
Big Shoota: Solely here to deal with weapon destroyed results.
Grot Riggers: Immobilized happens. Between Grot Riggers, a Big Mek, and as often as not a Grot Oiler, I've got 3 shots to un-immobilize myself.

I don't use Red Paint. Between a 12" move, 2" disembark, 6" run (Ghazghkull) and 6" assault....I can get where I need to be. Or I can't. I never see an opportunity where 1" would have made the difference.

Yeah, killkannons aren't great. If you want ordanance, go with a BoomWagon.

The best loadout, I find, is: DeffRolla, RPJ, Grot Riggers and 4 big shootas.

That's some tank shocking goodness, a bit of extra speed, more reliability and some pretty decent infantry shredding.

You can't ever shoot more than one big shoota if you are tank shocking or mobile, so why bother with four?

ahh thanks for the info. i wanna try the lobba out first, i always equip the deffrolla and get to the thick of it as fast as i can

My wagons are always Deffrolla, armour plates, big shoota, and riggers. I don't really see much use in RPJ, but some people swear by it, so whatever.

I've got two wagon loadouts- one shooty, the other geared towards Close Combat.

The shooty one is loaded with 4 Rokkits, a Killkannon, and a Kannon. What I've found is that I don't actually use the non-killkannon weapons much, though. That's mostly my fault, however. But the idea behind it is that I have either a Large Blast for groups of troops, and 5 Str. 8 shots for vehicles. I'll usually march it out 6 inches per turn the first two turns, and it'll be in the middle of the table for most of the game, then. With the 'ard Case upgrade (which I actually love) it's very, very hard to kill, especially when I use it to carry my Mek.


My CC wagon is something I've never seen anyone else run before, but I've found it somewhat effective (and this is from a rather bad tactician. I'm getting better, though). It's a Wagon with Wrekkin' Ball, Grabbin' Klaw, Rolla, Paint, Armour, Grots, Plank, and 'ard Case. I usually carry my Meganobz in it, so plenty of PK attacks with the plank... Basically, what I do is (of course) try to Deffrolla vehicles- if that doesn't work, then the Boarding Plank and Wrekkin' Ball gives a few Str9 hits, and if that doesn't work, I'll Grab the enemy vehicle if it tries to move away. Next turn, the same thing.

Since my Meganobz are almost always Scoring troops, I don't usually want to let them out of the vehicle anyways (I don't have that many of them), and if the vehicle gets popped, well, then you have to deal with the Meganobz. And if I do let them out, say, onto an objective in terrain, then the Wagon is still dedly dangerous to multiple units- tank shock one/ram with Rolla, and you still have the ball to smack someone with if you either popped a transport or went between two squads. With 'ard Case and Armour, it just makes a nuisance of itself.