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Has anyone any experience-or opinions- on either the FW Hornet (which I like as a complement/replacement for Vypers in my planned Bikedar army) or the Wasp Assault Walker???

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-HORNET.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/h/hornetexp.pdf

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-WASP-ASSAULT-WALKER.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/w/Wasp.pdf

Hornets are definitely better than vypers. Pretty good unit as long as you stick to the cheaper weapons, I'd strongly consider reserving them if you don't have first turn.

Wasps are about as good as current war walkers, bit more expensive but think of it as a BS4 tax. The thing is they're in troops slots, which is massive. I'm not sure you'll be able to take many of these without your opponent calling bollocks - if you have 3 squads of war walkers and then 2 squads of wasps, be prepared for a shortage of opponents!

So they're both solid firepower choices (hornet clearly better than vyper) and wasps can be used to get war walkers outside of precious HS slots - but like all forgeworld stuff, clear their use with your opponent and don't take the piss in building an army.


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Looking at the hornet rules some more, they are pretty good. Definitely the boost vypers needed compared to say SM landspeeders. I know I said stick to cheap weapons, and I believe in that, EML/scatter lasers are the way to go. But part of me wants to stick 2 pulse lasers on them, making a sort of cut-rate low-to-the-ground vendetta! It actually wouldn't be too much worse, especially if you have a farseer with guide around.

I love these models. Got three of each, and am in the process of assembling / painting them. The Wasp comes with a standard War Walker sprue and resin parts for the specialized items.

As far as the rules go, I'd say those two pay more in line with what a 5th edition codex would pay, meaning they are cheap(er) only when compared to what you get in the 4th edition codex.
The big part with the Wasp is that they are troop choices. I'd happily settle for downgrading their BS without touching points if that's what it took to make a proper walker army.

I know I'm eager to set them on the table to actually play a match.

One thing though. The Wasp is an "assault War Walker" right?? So why no CC weapons??

Assault isn't generally getting into CC, when a SWAT team gets told to"assault" a building, they go in guns blazing, not with their knives and fists. So i think that they're meant to be all up in your face with the 30" assault jump, they do tie up S3 squads like nobodies business though