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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 10:53:07
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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As the title says.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:02:06
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Unlikely...
It would be Codex: Deathwatch if there was one.
For some reason the GK codex was all 3 main ordos combined for no apparent reason even though Malleus is the only one to use GK.
The Witch Hunter's main troop of choice is the Adeptus Sororitas whilst the Ordo Xenos rely on Deathwatch Kill-teams though they rarely do that since a lot of Ordo Xenos stuff is sneaking about being sneaky.
IMO they should have done a combined Inquisition codex... but what's done is done, it's possible to make a Ordo Xenos army out of the GK codex i suppose but it's not exactly easy to o it. Though some options do lend themselves to the Deathwatch more than others.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
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"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:05:33
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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IMO GWS has something to give us.. Maybe they can add next to the kill-teams of the Deathwatch some stormtroopers as troop choices/meatshields like in the old Deamonhunter 'dex? I still hope there will come a Xenohunter codex. Matt Ward! In your office! Now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:09:01
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Why?
If you think about it the Inquisition really has little place on the table top.
Most of their work involves trying to stop secret plots happening. They are cloak and dagger and use secrecy to avoid their enemies and strike at them.
Running about in a massive army is usually the last resort.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:13:22
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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I loved the inquisitorial stormtroopers. I do not see a xenohunters codex coming out just because they crammed all the inquisitors of different odros to the grey knight codex. Would be cool to have a deathwatch team and an inquisitor though.
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I shall rule the world someday utilizing my cuteness. And I already have one minion to help me do it!
Hollowman wrote:
Of course it makes sense. When there are a bunch of BDSM clowns doing Olympic gymnast routines throughout your unit, while also cutting off heads, you tend to get a bit distracted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 11:24:03
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Im still hoping :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 14:42:26
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Hauptmann
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GW said this was going to happen eons ago. A combined =][= has been in the rumour mill for donkey's years.
Now we have it. Codex:GK.
Because as we all know, the GK are the military wing for every Ordos thanks to power of RETCON.
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kestril wrote:The game is only as fun as the people I play it with.
"War is as natural to a man as maternity is to a woman." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 14:56:04
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Actually GW said, in the form of JJ, that a combined codex was nothing more than "fan spank"
Xenoshunters, while cool, would essentially be DW killteams plus some allies. Not a huge amount of potential for sales there, so why have the outlay, if you were GW?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 15:09:47
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Pick up codex Space Marines.
Use Kantor to make Sternguard scoring.
Use scouts to represent inquisitorial plebs.
Counts as Deathwatch force.
?????
Profit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 15:12:35
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How annoyed would the internet be if they release ANOTHER Marine book?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 16:15:45
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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I can imagine all the rage. Would be something we've never seen before.
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I shall rule the world someday utilizing my cuteness. And I already have one minion to help me do it!
Hollowman wrote:
Of course it makes sense. When there are a bunch of BDSM clowns doing Olympic gymnast routines throughout your unit, while also cutting off heads, you tend to get a bit distracted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 18:48:36
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
Hemel Hempstead
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I'd like to see the xenos inquizitor be a hq option for codex space marines and IG, to represent a xenos hunters armies. Why all 3 are in the GK codex makes little sense to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 20:05:47
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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It shouldn't make any sense.
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I shall rule the world someday utilizing my cuteness. And I already have one minion to help me do it!
Hollowman wrote:
Of course it makes sense. When there are a bunch of BDSM clowns doing Olympic gymnast routines throughout your unit, while also cutting off heads, you tend to get a bit distracted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 22:45:24
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Crazed Gorger
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I'd like to point out that Sororitas being associated with Hereticus was itself a retcon. While certainly they probably fight alongside Inquisitors on occasion, Sisters are the military arm of the Ecclesiarchy and were thrown in with the Inquisition only to make a viable "Witchhunters" codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 23:17:19
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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A Deathwatch Codex would be awesome, but I see no reason you can't just run Grey Knights as Deathwatch. (Speaking of, do all you Brits out there spell it 'Gray' or 'Grey'?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 01:08:21
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Hey, instead of an entirely new book, this is actually something I'd like to be done as a WD 'dex.
There are certainly enough Marine Codices already, but the Deathwatch is an interesting idea and I could perfectly see a "mini dex" just like the original Chapter Approved DW Kill Team rules with a few more pages for fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 01:12:25
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Deathwatch are not really an organization like the Grey Knights, they are small groups of operatives recruited from various. Everything else in the codex would be whatever forces the Inquisitor decided were needed... i.e. anything from regular Astartes to Imperial Guard to Titan Legions.
If anything, they need to come out with another "Heroes of the Imperium" book, which would allow Imperial armies to field a unit of GKT, or a unit of Deathwatch, or assassins, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 01:43:39
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Jimsolo wrote:A Deathwatch Codex would be awesome, but I see no reason you can't just run Grey Knights as Deathwatch. (Speaking of, do all you Brits out there spell it 'Gray' or 'Grey'?)
I spell it grey. I've never seen another British person spell it gray and frankly gray kinda weirds me out. It just looks wrong.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 01:44:55
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Oh Dear I really hope so. I really want to have an Death Watch Force.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 02:35:20
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Crazed Gorger
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I think they could've just been put in GK. Terminator, tactical, assault, and dev squads, one in each slot, or just kill teams as elites. Wouldn't even require new models. It would also be cool to see them released in WD, with kill teams being available as elites to any imperial codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 03:40:52
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Deathwatch counts as GKs.
Deathwatch are supposed to have access to awsome equipment, so a Power Weapon(which counts as a Force weapon) and a Stormbolter wouldn't seem too much of a stretch.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 05:49:53
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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While I would love to see deathwatch as a useful option, currently the old rules are basicly just sternguard. Since we already have sternguard, what more can you add to deathwatch beyond sternguard that is fluffy and unique enough to justify a book?
I myself would like to see a Kill Team white dwarf release, with Deathwatch rules (basicly sternguard rules) included. This gives us our Deathwatch, has the opportunity for new models to be sold, pimps out Kill Team, and they can toss a nod towards the Deathwatch Kill Team RPG books. If only...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 06:14:05
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Grey Templar wrote:Deathwatch counts as GKs.
Deathwatch are supposed to have access to awsome equipment, so a Power Weapon(which counts as a Force weapon) and a Stormbolter wouldn't seem too much of a stretch.
no that is too much of a stretch. Deathwatch is famous for their bolters which have a varitey of weaponry. They are not all pyskers.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 10:09:18
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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No. Welcome to 2004.
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Ayn Rand "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 10:38:28
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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There is no need for a Codex: Xenohunters, since every Imperial army codex can hunt xenos by definition.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 15:36:28
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
Hatfield, PA
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Not going to happen. The original Daemonhunters book sold OK, but the Witchhunters book sales were only so-so. Xenos Hunters was canned a long time ago. I would have really liked to see a combined Inquisitorial book and really like the Daemonhunters and Witchhunters books. Now all the inqusitors are linked in the GK codex, but really on the Ordo Malleus gets much billing overall in the book. Hereticus and Xenos are kind of glossed over.
For private games with friends and such you can just make up the army using some of the inquisitor rules from the GK book and the adding in some space marine support and the like. The only problem is that you couldn't really play the army in official events if you do such things.
Skriker
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CSM 6k points CSM 4k points
CSM 4.5k points CSM 3.5k points
 and Daemons 4k points each
Renegades 4k points
SM 4k points
SM 2.5k Points
3K 2.3k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 15:39:57
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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it would be nice if GW re-released the rules for Deathwatch Kill Teams as a supplemantary 0-1 Elite choice for every Imperial Codex.
5-10 marines with Preferred Enemy everything except Deamons and other Imperial codices, awsome special issue ammo, sweet inquisition upgades and stuff.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 10:29:55
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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I'm pretty sure they already do, and they are called Sternguard.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 11:32:49
Subject: Re:Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Making Stuff
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Skriker wrote:The original Daemonhunters book sold OK, but the Witchhunters book sales were only so-so. Xenos Hunters was canned a long time ago.
From various comments from the studio over the years, it's not so much that Xenos Hunters were 'canned' as that they were never seriously considered in the first place. The claims that GW intended to do a codex for each Ordos were just internet wishlisting, based on the fact that 'well, they're doing the other two, so they must be doing the third...'
Daemon Hunters were an army in their own right.
With Hunters were an attempt to justify releasing a new Sisters codex (which the fans and the studio both wanted, and the beancounters apparently didn't) in a new packaging in an effort to broaden their appeal.
Deathwatch were never really designed as a stand alone army, and a third book just duplicating the same old Inquisition units with the addition of a unit of Veteran Marines wasn't going to work.
With the new direction for Inquisition (rolling the 3 ordos into one book with the Inquisition's largest fighting force, and presumably splitting the Sisters back off on their own) there's definitely no room for an Ordo Xenos book. At best, I could see Deathwatch coming back in as either a WD add-in available to all Imperial armies, or as a Veteran unit in the next Marine codex.
They'll leave the fleshing out to Fantasy Flight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/08 15:13:59
Subject: Will there come a Codex:Xenohunters?
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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I don't think so. Also, I would have a Necron book released or a Squatt Book.
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