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I play crimson fists vanilla marines and I just started so this might not be the perfect list but this is what I came up with

Hq-pedrokantor-175pts

Troops
-10 man tactical squad(missile launcher)-170pts
-10 man tactical squad(missile launcher)-170pts

Elite
-5vanguard veterans-125pts

Heavy support
-devastator squad(missile launcher)-150pts
-thunderfire cannon-100pts

Dedicated transport
-2 rhinos-70pts
-razorback-40pts

My only concern with this list is the lack of CQC units.please leave any comments on how I can improve this list.

Well for a crim fists army I wouldn't take vanguard. I'd drop the vanguard for sternguard. Plus Vanguard are fast, not elite....maybe you ment sternguard?

I really like this list, its pretty fluffy and looks like a crim fists army. Instead of a thunderfire, you should consider a dakka or auto/las predator. It would be more effective IMO.

Not to bad though

Get the tactical squads a special weapon. Even if it's free. Vanguard veterans are fast attack though i think he meant sternguard which is a good choice. But they would need combi-meltas/plasmas/flamers to be really efficient. I would drop the thunderfire cannon and get a predator or at the very least spend it on upgrades. But good start.

Yeah, i'd say swap the thunder fire for a dakka pred, then use the extra 15 for combi-whateve on the sternguard!

pedrokantor wrote:I play crimson fists vanilla marines and I just started so this might not be the perfect list but this is what I came up with

Hq-pedrokantor-175pts

Troops
-10 man tactical squad(missile launcher)-170pts
-10 man tactical squad(missile launcher)-170pts

Elite
-5vanguard veterans-125pts

Heavy support
-devastator squad(missile launcher)-150pts
-thunderfire cannon-100pts

Dedicated transport
-2 rhinos-70pts
-razorback-40pts

My only concern with this list is the lack of CQC units.please leave any comments on how I can improve this list.

Put a special weapon in each of your Tac Squads.

I think you meant Sternguard vets, which is a great choice w/ Kantor. Give them combi-weapons and heavy flamers. Put them in a rhino, not a Razorback. Even if there's only 5-6 in a squad. The rhino has fire points, so you can dump special issue ammo, combi-meltas and heavy flamers out of the transport w/out disembarking.

I'd drop the Devastators and the Thunderfire for Predators w/ Heavy Bolters, Dreadnaughts w/ x2 TLAC, and/or Land Speeders w/ HF & MM, in any combination. Use any leftover points on unit upgrades and extra combi-weapon Sternguard.

well thanks for the advice guys. And yes,i meant sternguards.Sorry if you guys got confused because of that.Anyway, that brings me to this new list

Hq-Pedro kantor-175pts

Elites-5 sternguard veterans(combi melta)-150pts

Troops
-10 man tactical squad(missile/flamer)-170pts
-10 man tactical squad(missile/flamer)-170pts

heavy support
-vindicator-115pts

fast attack-2 land speeders(heavy flamer)-100pts

dedicated transport-3 rhinos-105pts

so yeah, thanks for the advise.I normally play with at least one devastor because they have saved my men at least a dozen times.I still have like 15 pts. Please leave any suggestions on what i should use it for

Power weapon on the sternguard sergant? Extra armor on the vindicator? Melta bombs on all 3 sergants? Just some ideas.