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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 16:04:21
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Is it possible that a genestealer cult (in any way) would go against hive mind or no longer serve hivemind? Please if you could explain how it could be done or explain why it cant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 16:32:26
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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It can't go against the Hive Mind. Once you're part of the Tyranid Hive Mind you can't just decide to disobey it. However, if the Genestealer cult became too mutated or diverse to properly be assimilated the Tyranids might decide to let the cult go and move on to other planets, like what they did with Ymgarl Genestealers (which I know aren't the same as a Genestealer Cult but it still applies).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 19:48:48
Subject: Re:Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Would it be possible for a ork genestealer hybrid to leave a cult. im trying to create fluff for a type of genestealer looking ork army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 22:40:07
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Genestealers are supposed to be pretty independant. I'm sure I've read in the fluff somewhere that when the hive fleet arrives the greater cult often fights against it. Just because they act as psychic beacons, doesn't mean they know that Also Biovores are supposed to be based on ork genetic material. I say go for it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 23:29:45
Subject: Re:Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Old fluff had ork/genestealers hibrids, even though a loose and tendentially self-destructive culture as Orks tend not to be the best choice to help spread the infection nor for the survival of the cult.
IIRC Ork hibrids where seen as strange by pureblood (if micotic soup can be defined as such) Orks and usually ignored or eliminated.
Anyway, this days Orks reproduce asexually through spores, so the stealer's genes shouldn't be able to spread... unless an hybrid's spores are tainted as well.
A fisiology so warped, with an evolution so different from normal stealer's infestations could easily warrant the refusal of the hive mind to absorb their genetic material. Or maybe the powers of the Waagh! (which should be some sort of gestalte consciousness as well, I think) could interfere with the hive mind commands, making your cult independent... Anyway, go with it, as long as your fluff and your models look cool!
I'm sure I've read in the fluff somewhere that when the hive fleet arrives the greater cult often fights against it
I remember something different, like the broodlord knowing when the hive is coming and fighting to conserve itself, thus leading the cult to expand to other planets seeking excape from assimilation... which in turn leads to new planets infested, new cults rising, new psychic beacons and even more targets for the hive mind to dine off.
Anyway, I think it's old fluff, now GS cults (or at least their human and hybrid pawns) seem just to stage uprisings to assist the tyranid occupation of a planet, giving themself up willingly to assimilation in the end...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 23:34:41
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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It would be more likely that te Genestealer cult thrived, but when push came to shove the actual Hive Fleet was defeated or fended off. This leaves the cult independant, but also cut off from Tyranid support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/10 00:36:20
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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What would happen if a genestealer infiltrated a chaos cult?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/10 02:56:45
Subject: Re:Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Dont think that would work but....but if it did it would top the ugliest creature in the 40k universe!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 20:41:36
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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If a genestealer implanted a null, you would probably get something interesting. Though without any psychic ability, it'd be kind of hard for the whole cult thing to hold together. You'd have to finagle things to have that tie into Orks though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/14 17:03:47
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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As orks don't reproduce sexually i think ork genestealer cults have been retconned. As actual genestealer hybrids take multiple generations of sexual birth, something that orks do not do.
Genestealer cults are only part of the hive mind between a very small time gap, from when the hive mind is close enough (probably in that solar system) up until the planet and cult is devoured.
@cadbren: a chaos cult is pretty much the same as a genestealer cult in action and would be pretty easy for a genestealer to infiltrate, most humans wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a deamon and a xeno. As most chaos cults are only very tenously linked to choas till they reach breaking point the influence of chaos would have little effect in overriding te effect of the genestealer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/15 05:35:45
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Flinty wrote:Genestealers are supposed to be pretty independant. I'm sure I've read in the fluff somewhere that when the hive fleet arrives the greater cult often fights against it. Just because they act as psychic beacons, doesn't mean they know that
Also Biovores are supposed to be based on ork genetic material. I say go for it 
I don't think I've ever read any recent fluff about genestealers fighting against the hive fleets. Going by current fluff, some of the purestrains will hop on fleeing ships to spread to other worlds and avoid being reabsorbed and others will emerge and fight as shock infantry for the hive mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 05:24:05
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Skink Armed with a Blowpipe
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cadbren wrote:What would happen if a genestealer infiltrated a chaos cult?
Genestealer cults used to occasionally turn to chaos for more power. I have an old white dwarf army list from rouge trader that is chaos genestealer cults.
In response to the question of the possibility of ork genestealer cults, I seem to recall some semi-recent fluff talking about genestealer cults in the current ork-tyranid war.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 05:42:47
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Kryptman sent a bunch of stealers over to ork held territories to divert leviathan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 10:38:08
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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Jack42494 wrote:cadbren wrote:What would happen if a genestealer infiltrated a chaos cult?
Genestealer cults used to occasionally turn to chaos for more power. I have an old white dwarf army list from rouge trader that is chaos genestealer cults.
In response to the question of the possibility of ork genestealer cults, I seem to recall some semi-recent fluff talking about genestealer cults in the current ork-tyranid war.
That could just be the hive mind creating better genestealers for the war by using ork genetics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 02:12:17
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Okay, I just have not bothered to figure this out yet: What is a Genestealer cult? Evey time someone mentions them I picture a bunch of genestealers in robes sacrificing chickens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 02:47:13
Subject: Genestealer cult that eventually doesn't serve hivemind?
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GalacticDefender wrote:Okay, I just have not bothered to figure this out yet: What is a Genestealer cult? Evey time someone mentions them I picture a bunch of genestealers in robes sacrificing chickens. 
http:// wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Genestealer_cult
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