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my buddy plays Tau and I have under estimated the Kroot before and they wiped me He runs a large unit of them and when they are in the woods they get that bonus to cover saves. They are decent in hand to hand but lack armor, so they die easy. However at the point costs they aren't that bad

Saying you have to avoid assault is not always the best strategy. I always take drop pods and fast attack against Tau, and with my Orks I take so many boyz in trukks with big meks and KFF and bikes that I will be assaulting you by turn 2.

I think with Tau your biggest strategy point is your deployment. If you can deploy in a way that will split enemy forces or perhaps distract them in some way while you get enough shots off then your chances of winning are higher. A lot of times you will benefit form charging for combat resolution rather than be charged. I have cornered Tau many times with my Marines and Orks and they didn't have any more room to flee.

Played a game tonight against Tau. I lost. I played my Orks. We had a third party who wasn't playing set up terrain for us, I lost the roll to pick sides, and the tau had two very large buildings (awesome cover saves) and shot the heck outta my orks. I managed to keep about half my horde and assault, but due to the terrain being multiple levels the crisis suit guys would just jet pack out of range on an upper level and kite me back and forth.

Granted we did end the game a turn or two short due to something coming up, so I could have probably come back and won it. We agreed to count kill points and call it a match (was with a good friend of mine anyway, friendly game not competitive). The biggest annoyance were the cover saves. I had so much dakka coming at him and he just rolled crazy cover saves. I wiped out 3 units of firewarriors, 1 large unit of kroot, and he wiped out 3 mobs of boyz in trukks and a unit of fast attack bikers.

The biggest upset was that he had one unit locked down in a reinforced bunker and I did not have anything that could really punch through armor 14, and he marker lit the heck outta my lootas and reduced their cover save to zero and then large template blasted the heck outta me. I only had 2 or 3 lootas left at the end.

I also had some bad rolls, failed most of my cover saves and ended up boss polling a unit down to near death. They were under 25% and so I had to boss pole them because if they had fled they could not have rallied. I made a few tactical mistakes but they were all movement mistakes. He deployed in a superior position, allowed me to come at him and then kited my boyz with his jump jet guys on buildings that had multiple levels.

I admit I designed these pieces of terrain with a ton of left over necromunda pieces I had from back in the day so it all had multiple levels and bridges and stuff. The high ground really held out in his benefit because I was chasing him most of the time. Of course had I won the roll to pick sides I would have chosen his side to negate that effect.

Oh well, good game, I learned a lot about not letting the Tau kite me and use tons of cover to their advantage. I also am very new to Orks in 5th edition. I just dusted them off recently and this is my 2nd or 3rd game with them. I hadn't played Orks since 2nd edition and it is a world of difference. Overall, fun game, fun night, and I didn't lose by a landslide or anything.

Funniest part was when my big mek fought like 25 kroot. They rolled crappy, only scored 3 wounds on me, I saved all three. I attacked back with a power claw won combat, and then did a sweeping advance. This was an over run assault from when I wiped the other fire warriors.

I am going to change my list up some though for our next match.

krato123 wrote:yep....i myself would have had 3 railheads and a whole bunch of shots coming your way by any means necessary....and the 1 thing i fear of orks are deff koptas....when you watch 1 squad wipe out 4 units of crisis suits and a stealth unit, you learn to get a bit paranoid.......

Unfortunately I took my defcopters apart to paint them, otherwise I would have fielded at least 6. I also got lucky and seized the initiative and rolled a 6 to go first. I made one vital mistake and should have assaulted a squad in the ruins instead of a transport vehicle. I thought there were units in the transport but apparently it was a decoy. That would have stopped another round of 20 rapid fire plasma rifle shots at me.

If I had to do it again, I would probably put a unit of burna boyz with ghazskull thraka in the battle wagon, and then ran nothing but boyz in trukks and probably a unit of lootas and not taken the bikers. Biker nobz are tough but due to terrain they honestly did not do enough damage to justify. Of course I made my list before we laid down terrain.

another thing my buddy did, was he ejected his drones off his vehicles to block me from assaulting units behind it. It was timed well and it worked. Though the drones are easy to kill but what they do is buy him a turn of rapid fire, and that is all it takes to thin the numbers.