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Hey guys. I am going to be starting my first army and thought I would throw my list up here to see if i could get some feedback on it.

We will be mainly playing 4 way free for all games (Me, Tau, Dark Angels, and IG) in the beginning and somehow we decided on an 800 point list. I know 750 is more common, but we decided to use 50 extra points so some people could fit in some units they wanted to try out.

Anyway, here is my proposed list:

HQ:
Kharn the Betrayer - 165 pts

Troops:
9 Khorne Berzerkers + Rhino(Havoc Launcher) - 239 pts
7 CSM +1 Plasma gun - 120 pts
7 CSM +1 Plasma gun - 120 pts

Heavy:
Defiler + Autocannon + Havoc Launcher - 155 pts

Total: 799 pts


I know a lot of people prefer Obliterators for Heavy choices, but I already have a defiler and will be using that to begin with until I expand my army a little.

I was curious of what you guys think of the list overall and if you think the 2 small squads of CSM would work well or if i should get rid of a squad and give the other squad a few more troops, a rhino, and some heavy weapons.

Thanks!

It does seem alright. But I may drop one squad and try to put in a little bit more fire power into the army.

You could proxy the CSMs for PMs, it'd give you less guys but make them alot more powerful. also buy champions for each squad. And buy the champs PFs.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

I was torn between a death guard style army or a world eaters army for a while. I finally decided to stick with a world eaters army. I would love to toss in some plague marines, but I want to keep the list closer to a World Eaters list. I should have mentioned that in the beginning.

I'll play around with some points and take away a squad of CSM and see what it looks like when i beef up the other squad.

If I do go with 1 squad should I go plasma+melta+PF?

Thanks again!

I'd run 2 full-kitted squads of troops instead of 2 partially kitted ones. Especially with regular CSM squads, which really want all the extra goodies (Melta, Melta, combi-Melta, PF & IoCG). And the squad needs a Rhino for sure.

If it's not too late to change how the Defiler is kitted, I'd go x2 DCCW. It's less points and better, considering that he can't move and fire anything but Ordinance. Since you'll be moving it closer to HtH every turn, and wanting to fire the Battle Cannon until you can Fleet into combat, I'd drop the other guns. You're not likely to ever fire them.

Also, drop the Havoc Launcher on the 'Zerkers Rhino for Extra Armor (or just bank the extra points). It's only job is to deliver them into combat, and it'll be moving more than 6" each turn while it does that.

Thanks for the info wtwlf123. Ill definitely do that to the defiler.

I'm not sure how i would fill out the 2 squads point wise unless I drop the zerkers though. I'm open to any ideas you might have.

Also, you think the 2x meltas will be better than the melta/plasma or 2x plasma?

Thanks for the advice!

I don't think I was clear. I'd drop one squad of CSM to boost the other two. You can't afford 'Zerkers and two fully kitted squads of CSM at this level.

It would look something like this:

..........

Kharn, the Betrayer = 165

Khorne Berserkers x8 (Rhino w/ Armor) = 218

CSM x10 (Champ, Melta, Melta, Combi-Melta, PF, IoCG, Rhino) = 265

Defiler (x2 DCCW) = 150

..........

Total Points =798

Awesome!

Thanks for the info and for taking the time to put that together. I'll give that list a shot.

try not to put Kharn too close to your impotan units just incase he gets pissed and decides to pwn a friend

Nah, he should ride with the 'Zerkers in the Rhino. He deals out enough death not to worry about it. He's useless on his own footslogging up the board. He'll just do a whole lotta nothing, and then die to a S8 shot.

Just curious, but if you decided to play this as a 800 pt nurgle list, what would it look like?

I plan on buying some forge world bits to convert the army to a World Eaters or Death Guard army and still having a hard time deciding. Thanks!

Nvm

Bedrawk wrote:Just curious, but if you decided to play this as a 800 pt nurgle list, what would it look like?

I plan on buying some forge world bits to convert the army to a World Eaters or Death Guard army and still having a hard time deciding. Thanks!

- Kharn
+ Daemon Prince, Wings, MoN, Warptime

- Berserkers
+ Plague Marines

- CSM
+ Plague Marines

- Defiler
+ Obliterators



I play Nurgle (prefer Plague Marines to ...pretty much any other troop option). And you can't go wrong w/ MoN Princes, Plague Marines and Oblits in any combination. Kinda boring, but strong and consistent.

Awesome! Thanks man.

Do you know if anyone ever tries to run a Deathguard Army with some CC just to make it that much harder for people to kill you off before you get into thier ranks?

You lose 1 attack and furious charge, but with the right weapons it seems like it might be somewhat viable.