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So i'm going to my friend's tomorrow, and he has vanilla space marines. He's got 3 dreads, a pred, some rhinos, and 2 hovercrafts (can't remember the real name for them) and then a lot of terminators, scouts, and regular marines, and I'm trying to plan accordingly. Here's what i've come up with. Please let me know what you think.

HQ: 2x DP: MoS, Wings, Warptime = 350

Troops:
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PW, 2x Plasma, personal icon, Rhino = 261
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PW, 2X Plasma, personal icon, Rhino = 261
Khorne Bezerkers x8: Champ w/PW, personal icon, Rhino w/EA = 253
Vanilla Marines x10: Champ w/PW, IoCG, personal icon, 2x Melta, Rhino = 250

Elites:
Terminators x3: combi melta x2, dual l. claws = 110

Heavy Support:
Vindicator x1 w/ DP = 145
Vindicator x1 w/DP = 145
Obliterator x3 = 225

Total: 2000pts
Okay, before you guys give comments, it'd probably help to know what I have. I have: 2 DP, 14 Plague marines, 20 Bezerkers, 20 Thousand Sons, a LOT of vanilla marines (with havocs interspersed), 10 possessed marines, 10 raptors (I didn't know they sucked when I bought them...), 10 terminators, 4 rhinos, 1 land raider, 2 vindicators, and 4 obliterators.

My thoughts: Terminators are to be dropped in to demolish whatever needs demolishing. I could take off DP in order to add points somewhere else (like PF instead of PW for the units), but DP seems to be a good call for the vindis. I'm also considering the land raider, which, when combined with the vindicator (would take one out to make room) and the obliterators adds serious firepower, but is it worth the points? I could make it fit I think but it'd be very tight.
Any C&C is greatly appreciate! Answer what you can, dont what you won't/can't. I appreciate anything.

As I said on TeamSpeak, I don't know enough about CSM to give you an answer. Hopefully my fellow Dakkaites can help you out. Cheers~!

BUMP.... I'd really appreciate C&C guys.

Daemon Princes should be Mark of Nurgle. You've high enough initiative anyway the extra toughness is far more beneficial.

Plague marines should have melta. Fists would better that power weapons on them.

I'd drop the basic CSMs for more Plague marines.

The Termicide squad should be all combi-melta.

Vindicators are meh, in general Defilers are a better bet. Against a good opponent Vindicators should never get to fire.

Oblits are awesome get more.

I would honestly just make the daemon princes the mark of nurgle. i think thats a solid upgrade in its self.

If you're taking MoS, take Lash of Submission instead of Warptime. It's actually really good in your list. Move guys into a tight clump and drop Vindi pie-plates on them, or Oblit Plasma Cannon shots. Or move them into charge range for 'Zerkers. Or into rapid-fire rage for Plasmagun shots. Or pushing them off of objectives or out of assault range. Lash is brutal (and cheap).

If you wanna take tanking Warptime DPs, take MoN instead.

I'd go triple combi-melta in the suicide termie squad. Maybe a Chainfist on the 3rd if you have extra points.

Consider combi-weapons for your Rhinos. It's nice to toss in a few extra melta shots into a list.

If you don't end up going with Lash on your Princes, I'd swap out the Possessed Vindis for more Oblits.

Great! Thanks for the C&C guys! Much appreciated. Here's my new list:
Whoops! Forgot the MoS was when I was going to have two powers. Changed it to MoN.
HQ: DP x2: MoN, Wings, Warptime = 350

Troops:
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PW, 2x Plasma, personal icon, Rhino = 261
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PF, 2X Plasma, Rhino = 266
Khorne Bezerkers x8: Champ w/PF, Rhino w/EA = 258
Vanilla Marines x10: Champ w/PW, IoCG, 2x Melta, Rhino = 245

Elites: Terminators x3: combi melta x3 = 105

Heavy Support:
Land Raider = 220
Obliterator x2 = 150
Obliterator x2 = 150

Total= 2005
Dont think he will mind 5 points over.
Added the LR for extra anti tank. Thoughts? Should I go back to one vindicator, and use the points elsewhere? I don't have any more obliterators or plague marines....sad :(

If you're using the LR for anti tank, you're using it wrong. If you really wanted some anti tank you should do a 3 LC pred, or just 3 Oblits. LRs are great for transporting CC units right into combat, but idk if you are even gonna put one in there, so thats just a big points sink. If anything drop the Rhino for the KB and put them in there. Then you can spearhead your entire army, and have something big enough to hide the DPs behind.

The Land Raider is a bad choice. Single Raiders at 2000 don't last. And it's not very good anti-tank anyways. I'd add in 2 more Oblits in its place, and use the spare points for some other upgrades/models in the squads.

Yeah have to agree with what wtwlf123 says, drop the LR, add more Oblits, and upgrade your sergs to have some PF

GoBlackandGold wrote:Great! Thanks for the C&C guys! Much appreciated. Here's my new list:
Whoops! Forgot the MoS was when I was going to have two powers. Changed it to MoN.
HQ: DP x2: MoN, Wings, Warptime = 350

Troops:
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PW, 2x Plasma, personal icon, Rhino = 261
Plague Marines x7: Champ w/PF, 2X Plasma, Rhino = 266
Khorne Bezerkers x8: Champ w/PF, Rhino w/EA = 258
Vanilla Marines x10: Champ w/PW, IoCG, 2x Melta, Rhino = 245

Elites: Terminators x3: combi melta x3 = 105

Heavy Support:
Land Raider = 220
Obliterator x2 = 150
Obliterator x2 = 150

Total= 2005
Dont think he will mind 5 points over.
Added the LR for extra anti tank. Thoughts? Should I go back to one vindicator, and use the points elsewhere? I don't have any more obliterators or plague marines....sad :(

DPs look great.

run every champ in every squad with a PF.

And drop the LR and like most people have been saying bring in more oblits if you can.