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(first off, i hope nobody minds me starting this)

So, i am starting this with the hopes that it will give me the drive to work on my warhammer models. I have already got a full army that i bought second hand (DE) and i plan on expanding it, and i am building a CSM army from scratch. Im a new player, so dont mind my fails, and help me please XD.

Currently i have :

DE (all 3rd ed models)

30 Kabalite warriors
5 wytches
Archon
homunculus
2 raider
a raveger
2 talos pain engines
3 hellions
10 reaver jet bikes
7 warriors with dark lance

I have to do a couple repiars here and there, but all in all, good condition army. I plan on stripping it and repainting it, execpt the vehicles

For chaos i have

7 Plague marines
3 khorne bezerkers
Sorcerer
Termi lord (daemon weapon, MoS)
Lord (Daemon weapon, MoS)

Ill work on getting pics of the guys ive done so far, but i have a bunch of stuff unassembled. (5 plagues, 9 Zerkers, a predator and a biker).

heres pics of the two lords (both the same character, actually)

termi lord:



PA lord



and, here is the basic fluff for the Fulgrim's Angels

The Fulgrim's Angels are a slaanesh following warband that broke off of the Emperor's Children in the very early days following the Horus Heresy. That leaves them with many differences from thier parent legion. They did not fall to slaanesh as far as thier brothers, and retian the values tuaght by Fulgrim. The main being the concept of being the perfect astrates. They have, however, moved thier image of The perfect being from The Emperor of mankind to that of Fulgrim. The warband has not been completely immune to the lures of She-Who-Thirsts, and the use of many drugs is rife throught the warband. The apothacaries have poured all thier attention into creating new drugs that will affect the astrates' phisiology. They also have pre-battle rituals, which involves the intake of drugs and the idea of stimulating the senses. one of the passions of the Fulgrim's Angels is the creation of twisted art, displaying the bizzare, abstract art on thier tanks and fortresses. The other common thing is the customization of thier possessions, such as thier bolters and armour. They view themselves as the chosen warriors of fulgrim and the chaos gods.

on the battlefeild, the fullgrims angels are systematic and organised, using the original teachings of the emperor's children to great effect.

The Fulgrim's Angels have 2 main leaders, one of which has ascended to the level of daemon prince, and another who was a daemon prince when he joined the warband. The first is self-titlted "Lord Commander Mavet Hollowheart", who changed his name to "The Hollow Primarch" after his ascension. The second is a daemon prince who has no name, only known to the legion as "the twisted". He calls himself that, because he has fed himself on sensation for millenia, and has no longer any feeling of sensation, and has lost most of his senses.

The twisted will be a slaaneshi counts-as for a DP of nurgle with wings and warptime, while Mavet will be a DP with wings and lash. The two lord models i have posted represent mavet in his pre-ascension from.


One last thing to add, is the idea i have in mind for the Fulgrim's Angels. I like the emperors children, they are my favorite traitor legion, but i dislike the Emperor's children in "Fulgrim", so i thought i would make up my own warband based off the aspects i like.

the other factor is, i hate people who make slaanesh "sex bondage porn" armies, because i really, really feel that is not what slaanesh is about. I wanted a different take on slaanesh, so i decided to focus on the perfection ideal on the outside of the army, with the corruption seeped in the core of the army, if you understand my meaning. Pristine on the outside, rotten at the core. That is my basic concept.


If you read through that whole thing, i appluad your patience . Thanks for reading. im definately going to attempt to update this at least once a month.

I like your concept and your miniatures aren't terrible either. Although you did indeed swap a lot of letters around within your words.

Erm, its just been pointed out i made a derp in the fluff, im gonna edit that out like i meant to but forgot to

here we go, heres some shots of the second-hand Dark Eldar i bought.

group shots





(yes, that is a new hellion hiding back there, im busy making them now)

OH gak ITS GONNA CRASH!




(honestly, i have NO CLUE what is up with that mini. I'm keeping it like that, because its flipping funny. )

and heres a shot to show the paint scheme





so, im unsure of what to do with them. Should i strip them down, or keep this paint scheme? i mean, its not a terribad paint scheme, to tell the truth.

The models arent the best condition in the world. almost all the flying bases are broken, and need fixing, then there is some bits broken off of some of them, like the Talos and such things. but it was a steal.

AS for the chaos, im have a pretty good idea for my chosen now. originally, i was gonna use mk2 armour from forgeworld, but i have a different idea based off of the chaos warrior regiment. ill make a mock up one and see how it comes out, it shouldnt be too hard.

Liking thefluff for the csm, very well thought out.

Personally I would repain the DE that you bought for a couple of reasons:

One. By painting them yourself and using your own paint scheme, it willl be easier to replicate on future models you buy (like the new helion).

Two. It will feel much more like YOUR army if you paint them all again as it is very satisfying seeing it all layed out in front of you whenn you have finished!

If you do decide to repaint them, I hear that Simple Green or other similar cleaning products work very well though I would investigate further before you get started.

Nice work so far! Keep it up.

Cain

ps. May I ask what country you are from? You certainly have a very colourful flag!

Commander Cain wrote:Liking thefluff for the csm, very well thought out.

Personally I would repain the DE that you bought for a couple of reasons:

One. By painting them yourself and using your own paint scheme, it willl be easier to replicate on future models you buy (like the new helion).

Two. It will feel much more like YOUR army if you paint them all again as it is very satisfying seeing it all layed out in front of you whenn you have finished!

If you do decide to repaint them, I hear that Simple Green or other similar cleaning products work very well though I would investigate further before you get started.

Nice work so far! Keep it up.

Cain

ps. May I ask what country you are from? You certainly have a very colourful flag!

thanks for the comments!

I am from South Africa. It's a unique country to say the least. IMO, our government is utterly incompetent, and stuff here is pretty tense right now, but that's another story.

I DO have a stripping medium (was recommended to me by a local guy), but the idea of stripping an entire army seems daunting, so i cant bring myself to do it XD.

Quick update, ive made a mockup of my plan for the Chosen, which was a failure. i simply dont have the GS skills to pull off what i had in mind




ok, so new plan : i havre just gotten a box of (plastic) possessed, and ill kitbash them with the Chaos warriors i have to make the Chosen. Ill assemble one soon. I just am not sure how to make them equiped with Lightning claws. I was thinking of making them using possessed arms, but im thinking people may mistake them for possessed with that, since it would be possessed heads, torsos and arms. Thoughts on that?

heres what im working on at this very moment, a squad of metal possessed from third ed. They were the second set of models i ever purchased, and its about time i painted them up



Not the most amazing models ever, but meh, they are OOP, which makes them awesome IMO

Looks good. Keep it up. Just a tip, you might want to work with several thin layers to give the peice a little more depth.

Hey guys.

Lifes been really hectic and busy lately, so i havent got much done. i finished this guy up today, just a generic CSM.

My maximini steam knights heads arrived, so i hate to use one on a model immediately :3





I decided to add alot more "bling bling" to my CSM, because really, slaaneshi guys wouldn't be that modest.


edit: i didnt realise how bad quality the pics are. ill try fix that tomorrow

hey guys, im planning on making a beastmaster and his pets for my DE, and im wondering what models to use (im gonna onvert them all, rather than using the official metal models).

for the khymera, im gonna either use the new Ogre kingdoms sabretusks, or chaos warhounds.

for the beastmaster, im gonna use Dark elf beastmasters, if i can find some in my area, because you know, girl power

but for the clawed fiend and razorwing flocks, im not entirely sure what base models to use.

for the clawed feind, i was thinking the guy on the right with Daemonette bits(specifically, the claws), with some greenstuff mods to make his face look more alien.

model : guy on the right
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod1320020a

for the razorwings, i have no ideas.

anyone have any other ideas? im looking for base models. im gonna made 4 khymera, 2 clawed fiends, and 2 razorwing flocks.

bear in mind, these projects are far in the future, i just have a habit of planning ahead ridiculously far.

current projects : a lemartes chaplain conversion as a gift to a friend (i have all the bits, figured why the feth not?). a squad of 12 generic CSMs, one plasma gunner, two champions(one because i just have bits left over). a squad of hellions, and 2 haemonculi (an ancient and his buddy, armed with : ancient, scissorhand, webway portal, and hexrifle. buddy : liquifier gun and scissorhands)

the ancient haemy is gonna be based off this guy : http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat640010a&prodId=prod1250028a

his buddy is gonna be based off of the finecast haemy.

lemartes chaplain is gonna be based off so many models its crazy. there's gonna assault marines bits, khorne bezerker bits, stuff off the Chaos warriors and the space marine captian, and many many more. I'm doing the conversion because the friend taught me the basics of warhammer, and i love planning and making conversions. Our deal is, i make him, he paints him. Im looking forward to this. The day i get the assault marines, im going to start him.

theres a slice of the stuff going on right now.

also, in case the people reading this have forgotten () im looking for good base models for clawed fiends and razorwing flocks, for my DE

Update with an aspiring champion WIP! hes a gift for a friend (for my army. im basically giving him a model of his choice to lead a squad)

The "mohawk" is actually my old Vampire the Masquerade GM's conversion (he did it for some of his nurgle marines), but as you can see i failed at it, so next time i see him im gonna ask him how he did it. for this aspiring champ, im gonna move it onto the powerpack (as you can see, in the last pic it actually fell off)










Edit: C&C is requested, i tried some new stuff with this guy

Ok, My real life wen tot hell so i havent been able to update in a while, and ive gotten very little done, but now im back and heres an Update!

most importantly, Ive moved away from the actual game and have decided to essentailly throw it out the window and do what i want with my models. I started warhammer for the models and the creative outlet. So i dont really plan on gaming at all.
ANYWAY, Here's what ive done since my life fell apart

Stuff for my Custom EC warband, Fulgrim's Angels :

2 generic marines




And a Spawn "mascot" for them


The spawn came out awesome i think. the pose is great, i just hope my poor painting skills can do him justice.

For world eaters, i made a Berserker skull champion with jump pack. Im still busy painting him



and a World eaters spawn



And finally, a Sorcerer for the Word Bearers. I may switch him out for a better model at some stage

idk if it's the lighting or your white balance but your berzerker looks a little... pink.

A Kvlt Ghost wrote:idk if it's the lighting or your white balance but your berzerker looks a little... pink.

I think it may be lighting? Hes only got the basecoat of scab red on him now and then im going to work up to blood red at a later point in time

Obsidian Raven wrote:(post will be abit TL;DR)


termi lord:

Since you asked me to critique, I will.

I'll use your lord as an example, because it's one of the first, and pretty much exemplifies what my philosophy about posing is.

First off, find out what the character is doing. Here he definitely seems to be shooting. He's leaning a bit forward, a bit to his right, and his face is following the bullet's path. So far, so good. However, what I would change, is his left arm. I quite like the weapon you've made, but the posing of the arm could improve - since he's bracing himself (looking at the legs pose), I would have place the arm so it stuck out backwards to his left - to provide counterbalance. It looks a bit odd right now, because the only way he can balance himself, is by using it as a cane, prodding it into the ground. You could convey even more action by rotating his torso counterclockwise, while still having his gun-arm and head in the present direction. It will require a couple of pins and a bit of greenstuff for the joints, but both are pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Bear in mind that I think it's a nice conversion, I quite like the weapon and the colourscheme - I only critiqued it because you asked. Don't be afraid to experiment A LOT - tack-it is a great tool for this, which I use constantly.

GuitaRasmus wrote:


Since you asked me to critique, I will.

I'll use your lord as an example, because it's one of the first, and pretty much exemplifies what my philosophy about posing is.

First off, find out what the character is doing. Here he definitely seems to be shooting. He's leaning a bit forward, a bit to his right, and his face is following the bullet's path. So far, so good. However, what I would change, is his left arm. I quite like the weapon you've made, but the posing of the arm could improve - since he's bracing himself (looking at the legs pose), I would have place the arm so it stuck out backwards to his left - to provide counterbalance. It looks a bit odd right now, because the only way he can balance himself, is by using it as a cane, prodding it into the ground. You could convey even more action by rotating his torso counterclockwise, while still having his gun-arm and head in the present direction. It will require a couple of pins and a bit of greenstuff for the joints, but both are pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Bear in mind that I think it's a nice conversion, I quite like the weapon and the colourscheme - I only critiqued it because you asked. Don't be afraid to experiment A LOT - tack-it is a great tool for this, which I use constantly.

Thanks for the comment, i appreciate it!

The termi lord wasn't exactly my conversion. i was still learning how to model, and i gave a friend my idea for the pole arm (daemon weapon) and he helped me make it. the helmet and pose are mine. At this point i didnt really think about poses all so much, but now, i try out several different orientations and weapon organizations and such before i glue them together.

However, what i DONT do, but will start doing from here on, is "work out what he is doing" as you said. Right now, I'm starting work on a group of berserker raptors. the concept i was give/that i have is a group of mutated/mad marines who are "herded" by the leader (the WIP dude in MK6 armour in my latest update). The first one went to paint without me putting much thought into his pose (i experimented untill i liked it) but now I'm pre-planning the poses to follow your advice.

I pretty much love your Termi Lord

I'm fairly a new player (less than a month) of 40k Tabletop, and im more into Nurgle than the other 3 xD
I've been wondering, was the Fulgrim Angels lore yous? Cos i want to create my own lore for my armies

Uwaes wrote:I pretty much love your Termi Lord

I'm fairly a new player (less than a month) of 40k Tabletop, and im more into Nurgle than the other 3 xD
I've been wondering, was the Fulgrim Angels lore yous? Cos i want to create my own lore for my armies

If you like nurgle, you have to google a converter named "Svartmetall". He got me into the hobby with his fantastic Nurgle work.

The Fulgrim's angels lore is indeed mine. I am in the process of writing then an Index Astartes(the WIP of which you can find here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/411132.page). What i did when writing my lore was look at the fluff of my favorite chaos groups on Lexicanum, and take inspiration. I looked at things about slaanesh that are rarely represented and decided i would use those to represent my slaanesh force (im sick of the "sex" interpretation of slaanesh. Theres alot more to him than that)

Im actaully a relatively new player myself. Last month marked a full year in the hobby, and i have little to show for it, so i am now working on alot of stuff, and gathering bits for more conversions. I DO have work to show, but its not really what i should have after this long in the hobby IMO. so im trying to make up for my lack of progress.

My thing is, i try put as much planning into my models as possible. As ive said, I'm working on some Khorne raptors, but while i'm doing that im busy planning my Contemptor dreadnaught to thousand sons sorcerer dread conversion. AND my thousand sons sorcerer conversion. And my cadian troops to word bears cultists conversion.

I have alot of things planned, but need to focus on my posing a little .

I've looked up Svartmetall, and heck, his miniatures looks awesome
Alrite, ill do my homework on some of the Lexicanums too and nurgle (oh how i love the greater demon, hes cute and fat xD)

Looking forward to more pics of your armies

Uwaes wrote:I've looked up Svartmetall, and heck, his miniatures looks awesome
Alrite, ill do my homework on some of the Lexicanums too and nurgle (oh how i love the greater demon, hes cute and fat xD)

Looking forward to more pics of your armies

Thanks! The raptors are my current project, then I'm gonna working on a chapter master for a friends army, then its onto some thousand sons stuff!

Obsidian Raven wrote:

GuitaRasmus wrote:


Since you asked me to critique, I will.

I'll use your lord as an example, because it's one of the first, and pretty much exemplifies what my philosophy about posing is.

First off, find out what the character is doing. Here he definitely seems to be shooting. He's leaning a bit forward, a bit to his right, and his face is following the bullet's path. So far, so good. However, what I would change, is his left arm. I quite like the weapon you've made, but the posing of the arm could improve - since he's bracing himself (looking at the legs pose), I would have place the arm so it stuck out backwards to his left - to provide counterbalance. It looks a bit odd right now, because the only way he can balance himself, is by using it as a cane, prodding it into the ground. You could convey even more action by rotating his torso counterclockwise, while still having his gun-arm and head in the present direction. It will require a couple of pins and a bit of greenstuff for the joints, but both are pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Bear in mind that I think it's a nice conversion, I quite like the weapon and the colourscheme - I only critiqued it because you asked. Don't be afraid to experiment A LOT - tack-it is a great tool for this, which I use constantly.

Thanks for the comment, i appreciate it!

The termi lord wasn't exactly my conversion. i was still learning how to model, and i gave a friend my idea for the pole arm (daemon weapon) and he helped me make it. the helmet and pose are mine. At this point i didnt really think about poses all so much, but now, i try out several different orientations and weapon organizations and such before i glue them together.

However, what i DONT do, but will start doing from here on, is "work out what he is doing" as you said. Right now, I'm starting work on a group of berserker raptors. the concept i was give/that i have is a group of mutated/mad marines who are "herded" by the leader (the WIP dude in MK6 armour in my latest update). The first one went to paint without me putting much thought into his pose (i experimented untill i liked it) but now I'm pre-planning the poses to follow your advice.

You're welcome!

Also, another nice tip is to google pics of superhero cartoons, parkour performers, etc. to get good action poses - also, don't be afraid to exaggerate the pose a bit, to get the point across.

The chaos lord is looking really nice, one thing I'd say if you have a steady hand is to drill out or paint black dots for the gun barrels it makes quite a difference.

Looking forward to see more of your chaos and DE minis as you paint them.

been working on an autocannon troop for the Fulgrim's Angels. Focused on the autocannon. Heres a WiP. im currently waiting for my forgeworld MK4 armour to arrive before i set to work on the actual marine whos gonna be holding this beastie




I've managed to smooth the GS since this pic, and it looks a whole lot better with me having done so

Very nice conversion there. It's little personal things like that which really help models to stand out. Good job dude.

I made a quick kharn the betrayer out of a fantasy khorne champion. It was a metal one, so i couldnt do a lot with it, but here he is, in his primered glory!


and detail on the chainaxe





Also, my order from forgeworld arrived yesterday, A contemptor (gonna be made into thousand sons), some armour varients (MK4, MK3, and MK6) a Tau Shas'o for a friend, a Tyberos the red wake, and finally a set of arms to make some Heretics out of my cadians box,


ISsue is, my plan was to make Tyberos into a khorne termilord with daemon weapon (the chain lightning claws representing the daemon weapon) but holding th model, theres not a whole lot i can do to make the conversion. i expected him to come in more pieces.

anyone got any ideas?