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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 00:00:53
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
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Has anyone found some good black templar background information yet?
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 00:14:45
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Try reading their codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 00:38:47
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
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I did, it is not very comprehensive.
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Warhammer 40k: 3000 DOC, 4000 SM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 00:41:48
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Then read Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. It gives a lot of insight on how the BT work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 01:28:55
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
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Anything besides that?
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Warhammer 40k: 3000 DOC, 4000 SM
Warhammer: 7000Empire, 10000 WE, 9000 Brets, 4000 DE |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 01:32:05
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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The Lexicanum article.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 06:03:19
Subject: Re:Black Templars Background
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Damnation Crusade looked pretty good.
I believe its a comic series following the BT
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"AM are bunch of half human-half robot monkeys who keep tech working by punching it with a wrench And their tech is so sophisticated that you could never get it wrapped it out" thing a LITTLE to seriously. It also goes "Tau tech is so awesome I wish I was Tau and not some stupid Human" thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 17:10:00
Subject: Black Templars Background
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UNREALPwnage wrote:Has anyone found some good black templar background information yet?
Thanks
What sort of background in particular are you looking for?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 18:40:36
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Lexicanum, Boom studios comics...
And wait for 5'th edition to be released ( this year, September to October I think ), it's going to be a blast ( because our spiritual league is doing it ).
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:00:26
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Mighty Vampire Count
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coolyo294 wrote:Then read Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. It gives a lot of insight on how the BT work.
Agree completely - it has lots of BT background, and is a very good read with plenty of interesting characters
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:03:07
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Brother Coa wrote:Lexicanum, Boom studios comics...
And wait for 5'th edition to be released ( this year, September to October I think ), it's going to be a blast ( because our spiritual league is doing it ).
That's Necrons, not BT. There's no indication whatsoever that I'm aware of that there's a BT Codex incoming within the forseeable future. The fact that we were FAQ-updated also supports the idea that the BT won't get a new 'dex before 6th, which is good IMO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:56:33
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Brother Coa wrote:And wait for 5'th edition to be released ( this year, September to October I think ), it's going to be a blast ( because our spiritual league is doing it ). Well that's my intrest in the army killed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:58:37
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Actually, it isn't confirmed whose doing any of the forthcoming codices, except Sisters of Battle who I'm fairly sure is Phil Kelly.
Coa is making things up as far as I know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:59:22
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: That's Necrons, not BT. There's no indication whatsoever that I'm aware of that there's a BT Codex incoming within the forseeable future. The fact that we were FAQ-updated also supports the idea that the BT won't get a new 'dex before 6th, which is good IMO. Are you sure? There is a rumor that BT are next after the Necrons... Automatically Appended Next Post: iproxtaco wrote:Actually, it isn't confirmed whose doing any of the forthcoming codices, except Sisters of Battle who I'm fairly sure is Phil Kelly. Coa is making things up as far as I know. http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Black_Templars Sentence: "Recently it was confirmed that Games Workshop intends to release a new Black Templars codex, either before or after the Necrons get a codex update. Ignoring for a moment that Chaos still hasn't recieved a 5th edition codex when 6th Edition is on the horizon, and the Sisters of Battle are now hopelessly out-of-date, /tg/ emitted manly tears of pain and rage when it was discovered that Matt Ward would be writing it." I know, 1d4chan, but their rumors proven to be very accurate...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/07/16 20:01:22
For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:04:06
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So you really have no source for it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:05:27
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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iproxtaco wrote:So you really have no source for it?
Except rumors no...even new BT codex is just a rumor.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Ward write it. He already wrote Grey Knights...
And ask purplefood, he also told me this...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:06:25
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He's already writing both Tau and Necrons if rumors are to be believed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:08:36
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I am just glad he is not doing Sisters of Battle...
I want that woman hater away from our pure Daughters of the Emperor...
And I can already imagine new Necrons with Bolter-Gauss weapons...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:13:11
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is this based on your already sketchy knowledge of the particular event in question? Mat Ward is not the only writer who used Sisters as scapegoats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:17:07
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I know that, but in his fluff they die in most terrible way. And their bodies get....
Never-mind, I don't want to remember that.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:24:24
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So I'm right in that you still know next to nothing about the event.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:27:32
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I know - I read it 3 times, and it is slowed. It shows that SoB have grater faith then Grey Knights. It is slowed like the codex itself.
I won't speak about it again...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:38:15
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No, it doesn't, it doesn't even say that the Sisters are outright killed, or that their bodies are mutilated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 20:44:35
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I didn't even say that their bodies are mutilated. You should read carefully instead of accusing other people for not reading. And it doesen't show? "Some Battle Sisters are corrupted on contact with the Bloodtide. Those who endure fight valiantly..." witch indicates that probably their faith save them since Sisters equipment is more then absolute when compared to Grey Knight equipment. "Needing a talisman of purity to protect against the Bloodttide's taint..." Wait, Grey Knight need protection against corruption even with all of their training and tech while Sisters were protected only by their faith? It's slowed as I said...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 21:10:03
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This has been argued far too much, mainly sue to misinformation, and it's also wildly off-topic. Grey Knights are immune to corruption of the soul, but not of their bodies. The Bloodtide affects both. Some Sisters resisted through their faith, that's perfectly reasonable, its one of their defining factors. To halt the Bloodtide, the Grey Knights required an extra layer of protection to stop from exploding in showers of gore. The Sisters were simply there at the time, it doesn't say they were mutilated, it doesn't say the Knights bathed in their blood, it doesn't even say they were killed for their blood. The Knights defeated the Daemon, end story. Anything else is simple conjecture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 21:11:16
Subject: Black Templars Background
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I agree there is alot of questionable fluff in that codex, one being my founding chapter's, Chapter Master Dante agreeing to being mind swipe!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 21:13:53
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dante wasn't mind-wiped, only the marines under his command, same with every other chapter barring possibly 2, one for valid reasons, the other due to noble, if disobedient and ignorant reasons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 23:29:24
Subject: Black Templars Background
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That doesnt change the fact that it is dum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 07:42:51
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Ahahaha! Coa, you did not just try and use 1d4chan as a valid source of rumors, did you? The hell is wrong with you, linking to a *chan-affiliated website on a forum like this?
Brother Coa wrote:I know - I read it 3 times, and it is slowed. It shows that SoB have grater faith then Grey Knights. It is slowed like the codex itself.
I won't speak about it again...
Oh, but you will. You will take every opportunity to mention it, and how stupid you've been conditioned into thinking it is by your peers. You really have no understanding of what happened. No one does. The difference between you and iproxtaco is that while he has attempted to explain the event with the 40K setting's form of rationale in mind, you have allowed others to make up you mind about the codex and Ward, and refuse to change it.
CKO wrote:That doesnt change the fact that it is dum.
Except it does. It is not "dum".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 08:04:55
Subject: Black Templars Background
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Ironsight wrote:Ahahaha! Coa, you did not just try and use 1d4chan as a valid source of rumors, did you? The hell is wrong with you, linking to a *chan-affiliated website on a forum like this?
Brother Coa wrote:I know - I read it 3 times, and it is slowed. It shows that SoB have grater faith then Grey Knights. It is slowed like the codex itself.
I won't speak about it again...
Oh, but you will. You will take every opportunity to mention it, and how stupid you've been conditioned into thinking it is by your peers. You really have no understanding of what happened. No one does. The difference between you and iproxtaco is that while he has attempted to explain the event with the 40K setting's form of rationale in mind, you have allowed others to make up you mind about the codex and Ward, and refuse to change it.
Maybe you want to "enlighten" me and try to justify that?
Or Draigo?
Or the fact that Grey Knights can call orbital bombardment on themselves and go without a scratch while everything around them is dead and burred...
Or the fact that they got eaten alive by Daemons only to be blown up by that same Grey Knight after 2 - 3 minutes inside?
Or the fact that they can move planets into and out of the warp?
Or that they have armor that can reflect plasma ( Matt Ward way of saying: "f*** you Tau" ).
Please, try to justify me all that. Not that Sisters got slain by Grey Knights ( witch is also slowed ) but the fact that Sisters can repel Bloodtide with only their faith while Grey Knights have holly armor + psychic training + all kind of anti-daemon protection and all that packed int other finest equipment that Imperium can provide. And they cannot resist Chaos corruption and Sisters who have nothing more then their faith can? Something doesn't end up here.... And their Leader Draigo without this Talisman is walking around the warp making Chaos Gods really angry...
And I read Blood Angels to, it was also slowed with fluff and rules. And Codex: Space Marines should be renamed Codex: Ultramarines since only Ultras gain highlight there...
There, I now explained everything with "rationale in mind". and if you still like this kind of fluff may I suggest Batmen or Supermen or anything Marvel. They have a lot of unrealistic, overpowered thing going there...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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