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Hello I was wondering on how to make dawn of war (the video game) into a supplement for tabletop like planetstrike and battle missions.

But I do not know where to start for this table-top version so I need help

Dakkanaughts its your time to shine any help is greatly appreciated

Cheers for your replies

What do you mean, exactly? Are you referring to a non-linear campaign with provinces to occupy and stuff?

And which Dawn of War are we talking? Dawn of war, winter assault, Dawnt of war || and it's sequels are all very different to Soulstorm and Dark crusade.

liquidjoshi wrote:And which Dawn of War are we talking? Dawn of war, winter assault, Dawnt of war || and it's sequels are all very different to Soulstorm and Dark crusade.

the first ones and im not talking about a campaign i mean literally a game of dawn of war on the tabletop.

cheers for your replies

So, somewithing with Relics, Base Building, Strategic resources, that sort of thing?

Sounds pretty complex.

Perhaps all units in your army are in reserve, and you don't roll for them unless you control the Relic/Strategic point in question?
You start with an HQ and a troop choice, and a few (3 to 5) "Builder" units (Same statline as a basic troop unit, but no weapons and WS1/1A/I1).

---Builder: Builder units can make a building (6"x6" area of difficult terrain for the first turn as it's just scaffolding, turn 2 it finishes and becomes a full building, displacing any units on it to the nearest edge of the building). Builders require a "resource point" in order to start a building, and discard the point after they start.

---Building: Counts as an unmoveable vehicle with Arm 12 all around, shaken has no effect, and stunned/immobilized means -1 to the "Build" roll (reserve roll) for the unit it makes. Have a seperate building for each FO slot, and the "Build" roll would allow 1 unit per turn, to a max of 3 on the table (Recyclable like Meat Grinder rules if need be). Each additional FO slot building adds +1 to the "Build" roll for those FO slot units (ie, if I build 1 "barracks" for Troops, I can bring in a squad on a 4+. If I have 3 Barracks, I can bring in a squad on a 2+.). Units that successfully "Build" are deployed from one of the corresponding buildings like they were disembarking a transport. Perhaps also add a "Turret" unit that has a TL weapon from a short list of 2 or 3 options available for each army.

---Strategic Points: If you are the only scoring unit adjacent to it (Similar to an objective), you control it and gain a "resource point" (See Builders above).

---Relic: Same as a Strategic Point, but adds 2 "Resource Points"

If at any point, you have less than the original Builder number, you immediately bring a number off of your board edge (Like if they came in from regular reserves) up to the original Builder number. If you have no non-HQ units on the board, you can bring one Troop choice onto the Board as per reserves. If you have no HQ units on the board, do the same thing for one HQ.

That's my off-the-top-of-my-head ideas. Maybe to make it a bit easier, allow each building to correspond to 2 or 3 of the 5 FO slots instead of just 1, and add Critical poitns that give 1 Resource Point per turn or something.

im liking relics but i was thinking no builder units and have 1 troops 1h.q like dawn of war 2 mainly as it would simplify the game a lot more.

maybe that might be an unfair advantage for an army that can bring in reserves better, off the top of my head Eldar and Space marines. It would also be an advantage for an army that can split up its troops, space marines.

happygolucky wrote:im liking relics but i was thinking no builder units and have 1 troops 1h.q like dawn of war 2 mainly as it would simplify the game a lot more.

So, wait, how does this differ from just playing a small game of 40K?

OK so how would I do that?

I have an idea of you can only take the minimal troop requirement (allowing upgrades) for you first troop choice that's on the bored.

happygolucky wrote:OK so how would I do that?

I have an idea of you can only take the minimal troop requirement (allowing upgrades) for you first troop choice that's on the bored.

And then escalate to a larger scale in the battle? That is to say, add more units? Or just keep the small units you start with?

And then escalate to a larger scale in the battle yes that sounds very dawn of war thanks.

I suppose you could declare a points cap and allow people to bring on more reserves from their miniatures collection depending on how many 'resources' they have (which would increase each turn depending on how many objectives they control, and objectives would stay controlled after your unit leaves until an enemy unit comes to try and take it).

oh yes now rerserves...an idea:

place a marker down that is your rally point it has to be within 6" of your strong hold and every unit that comes on reserves has to be deployed within 4" of this rally point unless it deep strikes.

If you just want small scale games of 40k, why not play some Kill Team? 200 points of models, each model is basically its own unit...seems to fit what you're looking for.

no its not like kill team mainly because im trying to capture the essence of dawn of war on the tabletop not 5 men running around individulally picking off other people in a urban landscape.

requisition points, an idea:

place markers to represent them on the bored (but at least 18" away form your base) you must spend a phase (yes phase) at least 4" close to gain then after that phase you gain 100 requisition points for each phase(if you dont like the amount of points you gain consult how many points you and your oponents get efore the match starts).

anyone like so far, still figuring out how to capture enemy points.

I wrote a campaign for a similar idea campaign a few months ago, you should take a look and see what you think. Undercampaigns "Planet Fall - Helicos" or http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/363967.page

Unfortunately I bit off more than I could chew and ended up moving as the game got underway.
I'll ask the player who created a poster sized map for the game to upload it in case anyone wants to use the rules/map. (its rather high quality)

ok thanks for the advice

@OP: I guess we'd be able to give better feedback if we knew what bits of DoW you wanted to keep and what you wanted to ignore:
1) Do you want buildings or the ability to build units/structures?
2) Do you want objectives to be able to change hands like in DoW? (Takes time to secure/uncapture based on value or bonus)
3) Do you want new units to enter the board as per Reserves or in a different manner? (Like around a building or objective instead)
4) Do you want the ability to shoot into/leave a CC engagement? (Which anyone could do in DoW iirc)
5) Do you want different resource types, or just base the objective bonuses on points? (So does an objective give 1 Troop choice, 10 "Power", or 500 points?)
6) Do you want larger FOC options to match army sizes in DoW? (I think DoW had a much higher Heavy Support option given that vehicles took up seperate slots from troops)

darkPrince010 wrote:@OP: I guess we'd be able to give better feedback if we knew what bits of DoW you wanted to keep and what you wanted to ignore:
1) Do you want buildings or the ability to build units/structures?
2) Do you want objectives to be able to change hands like in DoW? (Takes time to secure/uncapture based on value or bonus)
3) Do you want new units to enter the board as per Reserves or in a different manner? (Like around a building or objective instead)
4) Do you want the ability to shoot into/leave a CC engagement? (Which anyone could do in DoW iirc)
5) Do you want different resource types, or just base the objective bonuses on points? (So does an objective give 1 Troop choice, 10 "Power", or 500 points?)
6) Do you want larger FOC options to match army sizes in DoW? (I think DoW had a much higher Heavy Support option given that vehicles took up seperate slots from troops)

1) no (i like dawn of war 2 better IMHO)
2) alredy done this for requisition points
3) alredy done this "see rally point post"
4) no its still 40k
5) points
6)no popcap (because you already have made an army list)

ok need a little help here:
can som one name every unit for the following armys:

GK
IG
DE
eldar
SM (all apart from CSM)
tau
tyranids

i dont want points costs or anythig just the names of units

Tau: Shas'el/Shas'O Commander, Shas'vre bodyguard, Ethereal, Shas'ui Crisis Suit, Stealth Suits, Fire Warrior Teams, Devilfish, Kroot Carnivores, Drone Squadrons, Pathfinder Teams, Pirahna Squadrons, Broadside Suits, Sniper Teams, Hammerhead Gunship, Skyray Gunship, Aun'va (Space Pope), O'Shovah (Commander Farsight), Shaserra (Commander Shadowsun).

Tyranids: Hive Tyrant, Swarmlord, Parasite of Mortrex, Tyranid Prime, Lictors, Zoanthropes, Venomthropes, Pyrovores, Ymgarl Genestealers, Doom of Malant'ai, Deathleaper, Termagaunts, Hormagaunts, Tervigon, Genestealers, Ripper Swarms, Tyranid Warriors, Mycetic Spores, Raveners, Shrikes, Sky-Slasher Swarm, Gargoyles, Harpies, Spore Mine Brood, Biovores, Mawlocs, Carnifexes, Tyrranofexes, Trygons/Trygon Primes, Old One Eye.

Dunno for the other armies

Grey Knights: Lord Kaldor Draigo, Grand Master Mordrak, Ghost Knights, Brother-Captain Stern, Castellan Crowe, Grand Master, Brother-Captain, Brotherhood Champion, Librarian, Inquisitor Coteaz, Inquisitor Karamazov, Inquisitor Valeria, Inquisitor (Malleus, Xenos, or Hereticus), Techmarine, Purifier squad, Venerable Dreadnaught, Paladin squad, Imperial Assassin (Callidus, Eversor, Culexis, or Vindicare temples), Inquisitorial Henchmen, Grey Knight Terminators (Justicar Thrawn is an upgrade character), Grey Knight Strike squad, Rhino, Razorback, Inquisitorial Chimera, Stormraven Gunship, Interceptor squad, Purgation squad, Dreadnaught, Nemesis Dreadknight, Land Raider (normal, Crusader, or Redeemer).

Imperial Guard: Company Command Squad (can be upgraded with Lord Castellan Creed or Colonel Straken), Lord Commissar, Commissar Yarrick, Primaris Psyker, Ministorum Priests, Techpriest Enginseer, Ogryn squad, Ratling squad, Psyker Battle Squad, Storm Trooper Squad, Guardsman Marbo, Infantry Platoon (1 Platoon Command Squad, 2-5 Infantry Squads, 0-5 Heavy Weapon Squads, 0-2 Special Weapon Squads, 0-1 Conscript Squad, Captains Chenkov and Al'Rahem are both upgrades to the Platoon Command), Veteran Squad (Sergeants Harker and Bastonne are upgrades), Penal Legion Squad, Chimera, Scout Sentinel Squadron, Armored Sentinel Squadron, Rough Riders (Mogul Kamir is an upgrade), Hellhound Squadron (1-3 Hellhounds, Devil Dogs, and Bane Wolves in any combination), Valkyrie Squadron, Vendetta Squadron, Leman Russ Squadron (1-3 normal Leman Russes, Exterminators, Vanquishers, Eradicators, Demolishers, Punishers, and Executioners in any combination, Knight-Commander Pask is an upgrade), Hydra Battery, Ordnance Battery (1-3 Basilisks, Medusae, Colossi, and Griffons in any combination), Manticore Missile Launcher, and Deathstrike Missile Launcher.

Eldar: Autarch, Farseer, Warlock Bodyguard, Avatar, Eldrad Ultharan, Prince Yriel, the Phoenix Lords (I don't remember all six off-hand), Harlequins, Wraithguard, Howling Banshees, Striking Scorpions, Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Guardian Defenders, Storm Guardians, Rangers, Guardian Jetbikes, Wave Serpents, Shining Spears, Swooping Hawks, Warp Spiders, Vypers, War Walkers, Guardian Support Weapon Batteries, Falcons, Fire Prisms, Wraithlords, and Dark Reapers.

cheers peoples i needed that