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This is a possible 'Ard Boyz list that I am thinking about. What do you think?


2500pts Grey Knights List #1

Coteaz - 100
Librarian - Warding Stave, Dark Excommunication, Might of Titan, Quicksilver, Sanctuary, Shrouding, Summoning - 215
315

8x Paladins - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo, Warding Stave, 1x Hammer, 3x Halberds, 3x Swords - 520
520

12x Henchmen Warband - 3x Crusaders, 2x Mystics, 7x Warriors - 3x Plasmas, 4x Stormbolters - 135
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Meltas, 9x Stormbolters - 105
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Meltas, 9x Stormbolters - 105
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Meltas, 9x Stormbolters - 105
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Plasmas, 9x Stormbolters - 105
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Plasmas, 9x Stormbolters - 105
660

10x Interceptors - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo - 300
10x Interceptors - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo - 300
600

Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
405

TOTAL - 2500

i would change tha palas to basic pa gk/purifiers (you can get about 30 strike marines or 20+ purifiers which would increase the amount of models on the table giving you a "real gk horde army"
for the librarian i would try changing dark excommunication to warp rift ( rift more versatile,and coteaz already has excommunion)

havent tried out stormbolter henchmen yet so i dont know if they work and the same goes with the interceptors
i like the dreadnoughts (who wouldnt, they´re awesome )

From my experience, paladins are way more durable than regular GKT's for only 15pts more per model. Keep them behind a henchmen screen and you've got 3+ shrouded cover. Moreover, those paladins are a scary deathstar unit that will discourage enemies from assaulting my troops. Terminators are just not as scary anymore.

However, I've been kind of thinking about adding another squad of interceptors. To do so, I'm going to have to downgrade my terminators as well as take out some henchmen. Here's a second version of the list. Let me know which you guys think is better (or any other changes).



2500pts Grey Knights List #2

Coteaz - 100
Librarian - Warding Stave, Dark Excommunication, Might of Titan, Quicksilver, Sanctuary, Shrouding, Summoning - 215
315

8x Grey Knight Terminators - 1x Psycannon, Psybolt Ammo, Warding Stave, 1x MC-Hammer, 4x Halberds, 2x Swords - 390
12x Henchmen Warband - 2x Mystics, 10x Warriors - 10x Stormbolters - 90
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Meltas, 8x Stormbolters - 102
12x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Meltas, 8x Stormbolters - 102
11x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Plasmas, 8x Stormbolters - 98
11x Henchmen Warband - 12x Warriors - 3x Plasmas, 8x Stormbolters - 98
880

10x Interceptors - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo - 300
10x Interceptors - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo - 300
10x Interceptors - 2x Psycannons, Psybolt Ammo - 300
900

Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autos, Psybolt Ammo - 135
405

TOTAL - 2500

My thoughts:

The main problem i see is the henchmen having a fairly low leadership, meaning the squads without an HQ are very vulnerable to being tank shocked (just avoid the 3 meltas and they can't do anything about it) or just shot a little bit so they have to take a test. And they also don't auto regroup, which is annoying. So, i think if they do not have an HQ with them, they need to be in a tank or sitting in back field.

Although the paladins are sort of scary to some things, other units like TH/SS terminators will beat them up pretty good, so do need to be careful of that.

Since your dreads are the only vehicles, I see them being shot by a lot of missiles and killed, since there is really nothing better to shoot the missiles at besides the interceptors.

The interceptors seem like one of the things that will be targeted the most in this list, especially before the slower moving terminator units get to the enemy). If they stay in actual cover then they can't use their packs without being afraid of dying to terrain, and if they hide behind other units, they are moving really slow. And if they don't have cover missiles kill them once the dreads are gone (i play SW so i think in terms of missiles, but other armies have similar firepower).

If you run into something like a vulkan list with 10+ TH/SS terminators, they will pretty much eat you alive. The same goes for anything else that can beat or avoid your 2 units that are good at assault (interceptors cause like 3 wounds the turn they get charged, so they are crappy in combat, and so are the henchmen).

If you want a foot list i'd go with marines or terminators. If you want a few henchmen groups to act as screening units, take 2 inquisitors so you have stubborn Ld10. Without that henchmen units are just going to run away.

My personal favorite foot GK lists are just a bunch of terminator, strike and purifier squads (probably something like 4/2/3 of each, respectively) with a few psycannon inquisitors walking up the board shooting the crap of of things, or a list with just 50 terminators and 2 inquisitors at 2500 points daring you to have enough AP2 to kill them all.

Hi jy2, why would you put 2 mystics in the same unit? Wouldn't it be better to spread them out? And I don't understand the role of the Crusaders?

I prefer the first list, as the Palis may attract more fire away from the henchmen.

I've fiddled about building stormbolter acolyte armies, but have come to the conclusion that due to their leadership and small squad size they would always be better in chimeras. For starters, this would give you a 12" cruise, a 2" disembark and a 6" meltagun range, for a total melta threat range of 20". At the moment your melta has a very short threat range.

Please take with a pinch of salt, as I'm a newbie.