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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 05:12:43
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hi all. I play a casual list against fellow SM and nid players. Looking for some advice on picking and choosing, and perhaps on where to from here.
This is what I currently play:
HQ
Warboss w PK & 'ard armor 90 pts
Big Mek w KFF, bp, burna 110 pts
Troops
2x 20 shoota boys. Nob, bp, 'ard armor, 1 bs, 1 rokkit. 180 pts x2
30 choppa boys. Nob, bp, 'ard armor. 225 pts
4 Nobs. Inc 1 painboy. Bp. 115 pts
Elites
15 burnas 225 pts
15 lootas 225 pts
Heavy Support
Battle Wagon w RPJ & deffrolla 115 pts.
Then spend the remaining few points on random extras for the nobs and battlewagon.
I fill the BW with burnas and the Mek. Leave the nobs in reserve to come on later and go to ground for some solid last-minute objective holding.
I feel that its maybe a bit weak, and lacks overall focus.
I'm thinking that swapping out the burnas for another BW, and putting both shooty squads in them (then affording a couple more nobs + a trukk) would go down better.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 05:17:01
Subject: Re:1500 point Orks
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Paingiver
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Ok 5 Nobz is a little light and no PKs at all is fairly weak and wasting a BW on 5 nobz is a bad idea take 7 or 10. Your boyz mobs need nobs with PK and Boss Poles forget the 'ard armor. Hard to critique because the list is not complete. Lootas are nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 07:30:31
Subject: Re:1500 point Orks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You're Right, I forgot to mention the boys nobs pks.
Taking more nobs, and getting more than say 1 pk for them is impossible given the rest of my list. when I look at what I could lose I only see the burnas, but they seem to be an all or nothing choice.
Perhaps I should make the leap to 1750 by taking both an extra bw and filing out my nob squad.
it seems like you implicitly support my other idea of dropping the burnas for another bw and more nobs. Yes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 11:31:00
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Screamin' Stormboy
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I think the burna is wasted on the Big Mek, you allready have 15 burna boys i assume in the battle wagon with the big mek, its an expensive upgrade.
5 nobs is too few to be effective.
Consider a minimum size grot mob of camping base objectives.
Maybe split the lootas to give more firing posibilites.
Cybork that warboss, its worth it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 13:47:14
Subject: Re:1500 point Orks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Cheers.
That helps solidify some choices for me, both now and for future lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 14:22:52
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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I wouldn't take a single BW in a list. It will get targeted down easily. Also, it doesn't have enough protective upgrades. It's a big investment, used exclusively to deliver a squad. Give it the upgrades it needs to be able to do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 14:29:59
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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wtwlf123 wrote:I wouldn't take a single BW in a list. It will get targeted down easily. Also, it doesn't have enough protective upgrades. It's a big investment, used exclusively to deliver a squad. Give it the upgrades it needs to be able to do that.
true when it is your only armor, which it is.
Like it has been said, take more nobz and kit them out all differently, that will help them survive, I had a 9 man Nob sqaud survive over 100 attacks once thanks to that wound allocation shenanigan. I would say drop the choppa boyz and fit more points for the nobz, drop the llotas and fit two mroe BW.
A 9 man nob unit with 3 PKs will be around 380 points if you kit them out differently and give them all cybork (a must).
Last thing, I would heavyly suggest dputting at least one Big Shoota on the BW so it won't get immobilized from a weapon destroyed result.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 15:11:08
Subject: Re:1500 point Orks
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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First of all the Warboss should always have an attack squig at the least and as he can be your hardest hitting Boy make him worthwhile.
Secodnly I think you need more Nobz in your Nob unit so I would find those points.
Finally while Burna Boyz can be fun, in a foot list they will probably be target priority one, and will not make it across the field in any numbers if at all. I usually only take Burna Boyz in mechanized list with plenty of vehicles so that they can get where they are going. As I do not want to change your list too much I will leave them in but you may want to consider a second full unit of lootas as they are the same price and could be more useful.
All this having been said I would have your list look like this with minimum changes to what you started with:
HQ:
Warboss @ 120 pts ( Stikkbombs; 'Eavy Armour; Attack Squig; Bosspole; Cybork Body; Slugga; Power Klaw)
Big Mek @ 90 pts ( Mek's Tools; 'Eavy Armour; Kustom Force Field; Choppa
Troops:
Nobz - 8 @ 300 pts
Painboy (Dok's Tools; Cybork Body; 'Urty Syringe)
Nob 1 (Bosspole; Cybork Body; Slugga; Power Klaw)
Nob 2 (Cybork Body; Waaagh! Banner; Slugga; Power Klaw)
Nobz x5 (Cybork Body; Choppa; Slugga)
Shoota Boyz 1 @ 160 pts – 19x Boyz & 1x Nob ( Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw
Shoota Boyz 2 @ 160 pts – 19x Boyz & 1x Nob ( Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw
Slugga Boyz @ 220 pts – 29x Boyz & 1x Nob ( Bosspole; Slugga; Power Klaw
Elite:
15 Lootas @, 225 pts
15 Burna Boyz @ 225 pts
Total Roster Cost: 1500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 17:07:20
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Hialmar wrote:Warboss @ 120 pts ( Stikkbombs; 'Eavy Armour; Attack Squig; Bosspole; Cybork Body; Slugga; Power Klaw)
Stikkbombs on the Warboss? Why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 17:11:58
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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wtwlf123 wrote:Hialmar wrote:Warboss @ 120 pts ( Stikkbombs; 'Eavy Armour; Attack Squig; Bosspole; Cybork Body; Slugga; Power Klaw)
Stikkbombs on the Warboss? Why?
he has them by default has he not??
Just like the BIg mek Mek's tool and choppa
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 17:52:38
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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He may. I just never see them listed, and they're useless on him, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 03:55:21
Subject: 1500 point Orks
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Hollerin' Herda with Squighound Pack
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Lepuke wrote:I think the burna is wasted on the Big Mek, you allready have 15 burna boys i assume in the battle wagon with the big mek, its an expensive upgrade.
+1
Lepuke is right, the burna is a really expensive upgrade, and isn't as necessary as you would think, given the 15 templates.
I think it's also been stated that your BW will go down fairly fast because it's your only vehicle on the board. This is also something you should take into consideration. It may have 14 AV in the front, but it won't last forever if it's being targeted by every anti-vehicle weapon your opponent has.
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