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My army had a hard time against my friends reapeter crossbows/bolt thrower/lore of metal spells. Help please!
Im new(ish) to Warhammer. This is my first army. Im planning on buying a Scylla and the new Chaos Sorcerer(Looks Epic!!!) but we are playing in a few days so this is what I was thinking until pay day

Sorcerer Lord lvl 4 MoT, Blood curdling roar, Conjoind Hum, Rune Shield, Tal of Protect, Dispel Scroll - He has shadow blade! Assasins are dirty!

EH MoS, SoS, Shield, Rending sword, Enchanted Shield, Acid Ichor. - Use him to get the crossbows

Warriors x15 Champ,Music,Stand, MoN, Wailing Banner -Beef!

Marauders 2x15 Champ,Music,Stand, MoN - Use these to get the warriors in!

Hounds x10 Scaly skin - Shield for the knights

Knights x10 Champ,Music,Stand, MoN, Armour Piercing - Blot Thrower hunters!

Spawns x2 MoS - Never used them?


I tried to get him before and he just sat there and shot me till I was almost dead then sent in his Manticore! His sorceress is hard!

All views or ideas welcome

Ta x

Greetings and welcome to those of us who despise everything nice in the old world

So lets start at the top.

The lord looks interesting.

Hmm sounds like you like getting your sorcerer into combat.... Dont do that thats bad bad unless its last turn and you need a little help in a cc somewhere but not until then.

I would say to protect your lord a whole lot better try this (yes this costs a bunch of points but hey he lives longer and hits harder).


Chaos Sorcerer Lord 420
Mot
Lvl 4
Biting Blade
Enchanted Shield
Talisman of Preservation
power familiar
Disc
Stream of corruption

If you want to drop 30 points off him drop the biting blade and the familiar.
Other than that he has great saves 1+ 3++ so he will most likely not take anything from anyone.

So for heroes you really want a little punch and support I would say use him as a bsb rather than mr im going up there and killing stuff alone (he does not have enough gear to do so with 50 points worth of stuff).

Suggestion would be

Exalted Hero 189
Bsb
MOT
Halberd
Talisman of Endurance
Charmed shield
Iron curse Icon

or

Exalted Hero 195
BSB
MOT
Talisman of Endurance
Enchanted shield
Iron curse icon

(with this option give the sorcerer the armor of destiny).

His purpose is to sit in a unit give the unit some saves and be beastly. He does a good job of that with either set up, the 195 point one is more livable and ya very frustrating for your opponent.

Now lets build up a nice core.

So mon is meh expensive and dosnt do much for you -1 to hit is ok if you are up against shooty but in cc it only matters when fighting against ws 6 and ws3.

Since I am a strong believer of tz I suggest 1 unit of tz warriors and 1 unit of khorne warriors.

6 wide works the best I have found for warriors.

16 warriors 326
mot
shields
fc
rapturous standard
Anvil unit with ward save woot love these guys they dont run and hide they stick around no matter how tough the going gets.

Unit 2
16 warriors 326
mok
halberds
fc
flaming standard
This unit tears through everything really lots of attacks flaming and high str so his hydra will be sad and die really fast.
So will anything else.

Marauders need to be in a big group 40+ try mok with gw or what my good friend Ralin does put festus in with them.

Why well he gives them all regen and he can cast magic too especially the curse haha.

40 Marauders 250
mok
gw
fc

Your knight unit is huge make it smaller and make it more livable.

5 knights 290
mot
musician standard
blasted standard

So this is what you may want to try.

Chaos Sorcerer Lord 420
Mot
Lvl 4
Biting Blade
Enchanted Shield
Talisman of Preservation
power familiar
Disc
Stream of corruption

Exalted Hero 189 (in either tz or khorne warriors)
Bsb
MOT
Halberd
Talisman of Endurance
Charmed shield
Iron curse Icon

Festus 185 (with marauders).

16 warriors 326
mot
shields
fc
rapturous standard

16 warriors 326
mok
halberds
fc
flaming standard

42 Marauders 260
mok
gw
fc

5 knights 290
mot
musician standard
blasted standard

Comes to a grand total of 1996.

He should have some fun trying to crack that.