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Any sight of prices for the Jetbikes yet?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Any sight of prices for the Jetbikes yet?

£37.50

37,50€ from the usual discounters, assuming they will be able to get their orders in.

I'm assuming the box will be a triplicate affair (1 single sprue x 3), HH 2.0 releases have been super stingy in the unique sprue count dept

beast_gts wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Any sight of prices for the Jetbikes yet?

£37.50

That’s…less than I expected. Find a decent discount and dare I say it’s even….pretty reasonable?

No Dakka, that’s not the same as cheap.

It’s about what 1 cost in resin isn’t it?

 tauist wrote:
37,50€ from the usual discounters, assuming they will be able to get their orders in.

I'm assuming the box will be a triplicate affair (1 single sprue x 3), HH 2.0 releases have been super stingy in the unique sprue count dept

Potentially, yeah. Which would be nice, as at least I can now hand swap a Volkite Serpenta.

Maybe even a Chainsword. Imagine that.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
It’s about what 1 cost in resin isn’t it?

Around that yeah. But I’m conscious of a sort of Forgeworld Pricing Stockholm Syndrome, where any switch from I Can’t Afford That to a lower price point feels potentially misleading.

Crap and over egged example? I’m selling a tin of peas for £100. Clearly far over priced. I could announce a 90% off sale, and there’ll be some folk who can’t see past the discount to the more objective value, which in this example remains a rip off.

Models of course are not peas, so the value has a greater degree of subjective opinion. But hopefully you get what on I’m about.

Another example really of HH pricing generally. Not cheap by any stretch but (relatively speaking....) surprisingly reasonable and a pleasant surprise to an extent.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Another example really of HH pricing generally. Not cheap by any stretch but (relatively speaking....) surprisingly reasonable and a pleasant surprise to an extent.

As is said before, they offer largely identical units - in mass and general build - in plastic in form of the Custodes Jetbikes, it was clear that they would not deviate too much from their pricepoint.

Heresy Thursday – Armour Up With Contemptor Dreadnought Legion Upgrades




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However, this does mean that the original resin Legion Contemptor Dreadnoughts – which have Legion-specific shoulders, legs, and other details – are not long for this world. They’ll soon be marked as Last Chance to Buy, and after that will disappear for good, so if you want one before the upgrade set becomes available, you’ll need to order it soon.

That’s cool I guess. The good news is it’s given me inspiration on how to paint the generic contemptor for the white scars

Didn’t see that coming but I guess we should have; I think I remember someone speculating about this exact thing, more or less, when the plastic Contemptor was first introduced.

Maybe that means legion upgrades for leviathans will be forthcoming too? I know the kits are well set up to accommodate them.

Hmm. Slightly more persuaded to hold one of my three unbuilt Contemptors for now, so I can order the DA sarcophagus, and have that as my Fury of the Ancients HQ.

I’m not normally a fan of resin, let alone plastic/resin hybrids, but these shouldn’t be too tough to assemble.

So we had MKVI upgrades, now we are getting Contemptor upgrades, Leviathan for sure too after that and then they can still do Terminator upgrades so still quite a lot they can show for HH Thursdays

These aren’t so much upgrades as them taking a current resin kit and refitting it so that it works with the new plastic kit.

I'm a bit surprised they're moving on to these before spending a few months doing some more legion specific Praetors. Several legions are still missing them, and a couple could charitably do with replacing.

beast_gts wrote:
Heresy Thursday – Armour Up With Contemptor Dreadnought Legion Upgrades

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However, this does mean that the original resin Legion Contemptor Dreadnoughts – which have Legion-specific shoulders, legs, and other details – are not long for this world. They’ll soon be marked as Last Chance to Buy, and after that will disappear for good, so if you want one before the upgrade set becomes available, you’ll need to order it soon.

Given these ARE the current resin dread torso with minor changes you cant see to better fit the waist section and maybe backpack, im pretty disapointed. Buying a £42 resin contemptor was expensive but you got either something very unique or if you mixed it with a plastic version, you got 2 dread with unique torso / legs / shoulders. Now you have to buy a plastic dread, throw away the torso and pay presumably £20? for a fancy torso you wont want more than 1 of. Sure its good you can buy it separate, but i think it will work out more expensive per dread.

stato wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Heresy Thursday – Armour Up With Contemptor Dreadnought Legion Upgrades

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However, this does mean that the original resin Legion Contemptor Dreadnoughts – which have Legion-specific shoulders, legs, and other details – are not long for this world. They’ll soon be marked as Last Chance to Buy, and after that will disappear for good, so if you want one before the upgrade set becomes available, you’ll need to order it soon.

Given these ARE the current resin dread torso with minor changes you cant see to better fit the waist section and maybe backpack, im pretty disapointed. Buying a £42 resin contemptor was expensive but you got either something very unique or if you mixed it with a plastic version, you got 2 dread with unique torso / legs / shoulders. Now you have to buy a plastic dread, throw away the torso and pay presumably £20? for a fancy torso you wont want more than 1 of. Sure its good you can buy it separate, but i think it will work out more expensive per dread.

At some point they just need to reduce the number of items on offer and/or reach the point where continued sales no longer justify making new masters and production moulds, and the glut of dread-related products is just a very obvious place to start pruning.

stato wrote:
Given these ARE the current resin dread torso with minor changes you cant see to better fit the waist section and maybe backpack, im pretty disapointed. Buying a £42 resin contemptor was expensive but you got either something very unique or if you mixed it with a plastic version, you got 2 dread with unique torso / legs / shoulders. Now you have to buy a plastic dread, throw away the torso and pay presumably £20? for a fancy torso you wont want more than 1 of. Sure its good you can buy it separate, but i think it will work out more expensive per dread.

Don't forget, the plastic dread includes the weapons, the resin ones didn't, so that adds a big chunk to the price of the resin ones, so this should work out cheaper. Does seem a shame that it loses a lot of the extra upgrade detail on the shoulders and legs though (though of course, to retain that would mean basically supplying nearly the entire resin dread, which defeats the point of these releases).

I've never been a fan of the Contemptor aesthetic, but that Iron Warriors sarcophagus is making me seriously consider getting one for use as a modern Hellbrute.

The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

Tavis75 wrote:

stato wrote:
Given these ARE the current resin dread torso with minor changes you cant see to better fit the waist section and maybe backpack, im pretty disapointed. Buying a £42 resin contemptor was expensive but you got either something very unique or if you mixed it with a plastic version, you got 2 dread with unique torso / legs / shoulders. Now you have to buy a plastic dread, throw away the torso and pay presumably £20? for a fancy torso you wont want more than 1 of. Sure its good you can buy it separate, but i think it will work out more expensive per dread.

Don't forget, the plastic dread includes the weapons, the resin ones didn't, so that adds a big chunk to the price of the resin ones, so this should work out cheaper. Does seem a shame that it loses a lot of the extra upgrade detail on the shoulders and legs though (though of course, to retain that would mean basically supplying nearly the entire resin dread, which defeats the point of these releases).

The shoulder and leg armour plates are completely separate pieces on the plastic Contemptor. You could be replacing four relatively thin plates instead of four solid chunks.

Well, I already have 3 of the EC dreads (and another 5 of the new ones) so I will pass on this. However, this will eventually be a boon for my buddy and his WB forces...which for now consist of a starter box, Lorgar and a unit of Ashen Circle.

This move to (mostly) plastic was the trigger for him to jump fully into HH. I already told him that when we play all he needs to do is write out his list as "counts as"...I want him to enjoy the games.

Thinking about it, I may get a pair of the new EC ones...only 2 of the new Contemptors are currently built...

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

soviet13 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

Well… they did say it was slow….

What are the odds they’ll rework the shoulder and leg plates as made to order upgrades?

I don’t know the limits of resin or the specifics of the plastic contemptor version, I guess it’s possible resin version of these plates will be too fiddly.

Well, at least they're not doing these previews one by one.

Iron Warriors is the best. Except the head. The details look a little soft there, for some reason.

TreeStewges wrote:
What are the odds they’ll rework the shoulder and leg plates as made to order upgrades?

I don’t know the limits of resin or the specifics of the plastic contemptor version, I guess it’s possible resin version of these plates will be too fiddly.

The new plastic kit is crazy modular. Here is mine after the sub-build, but before pose/assembly.

Doing non-torso bits should be well within the technical limits of resin. Would it be financially viable is a whole different story.

Hmm, this could make me buy a plastic Contemptor with DG Upgrade, despite having the resin one.
Defintely makes me holding back on a Leviathan.

I guess another option is for them to just occasionally bring these ‘full bodied’ versions back as made-to-order just like they do torsos and certain shoulder pads.

My main thing is, if these torsos are $23 USD like head and shoulder packs are, then buying the plastic ‘nought, $60 USD, plus the torso is $83 USD.

The ‘full’ ones are currently $65 USD and one of the Contemptor weapon frame packs is $27. Each pack has everything for arm mounting.

Thus the ‘full’ and one pack to make a valid ‘nought is therefore $92 USD. $9 more for a nicer looking ‘nought. Of course, if what you want is double of something or the combo requires both packs. Well doubles will have a similar price difference but the plastic and torso combo works much better if the desired weapon set is across both default frames.

The point of my rambling is that the savings isn’t all that high, for the most part, for a more pose-able ‘nought that doesn’t look as legionified.

Especially since they aren’t selling multiple kinds of torsos and heads like they do infantry so you’ll only want one in general anyway.

Combined with this years price hikes due to everything; it’s looking like they should just say frack it and sell it jumbo upgrade packs.

Torsos, heads, shoulder pads, weapon styles, unit upgrade kits, as well as plates and doors for dreadnoughts, rhino based and land raider based vehicles.

Actually, for rhinos and raiders just make large, decorative gubbinz that fit on flat surfaces so that the decorations work on both rhinos and raiders, both 30k and 40k.

I guess a guy can dream.


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EDIT: Oh snap, I almost forgot, thanks for elaborating Nevelon! Those plates do look thick enough for resin to work.

FFS, they carried forward the awful looking IW contemptor helm. Urghhhhh.