Horus Heresy / 30K N&R

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**The Phazer**

His Master's Voice wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Tartaros and Cataphractii in scale with Mk6/3 would certainly be welcome, but not if they're comically oversized like Indomitus and not if all the current bits are parted out into separate upgrade kits.

Didn't the current plastic Tartaros come out alongside the current Mk6 Marines? Shouldn't they be in scale with each other already?

No, they're from 2017, they just got re-released for the HH 2.0 launch.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Haighus wrote:
The remakes are often pretty loose with the source material. The Contemptor and Deredeo modernisations are considerably altered from the Rogue Trader versions with only the vague concepts carried through IMO.

The names are from early Rogue Trader, but the models are from Space Marine and for the Deredeo, also Space Crusade (I’m not sure where they featured first though, Marine or Crusade)

**lord_blackfang**

His Master's Voice wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Tartaros and Cataphractii in scale with Mk6/3 would certainly be welcome, but not if they're comically oversized like Indomitus and not if all the current bits are parted out into separate upgrade kits.

Didn't the current plastic Tartaros come out alongside the current Mk6 Marines? Shouldn't they be in scale with each other already?

Cataphractii were in the Age of Darkness box but both terminator sculpts were already 6+ years old at the time.

**chaos0xomega**

For further clarification, tartaros came out alongside the old (current) undersized Mk IV kits

**Haighus**

chaos0xomega wrote:
For further clarification, tartaros came out alongside the old (current) undersized Mk IV kits

Cataphractii was released alongside the MkIV in the Betrayal at Calth boxset. Tartaros was released alongside the previous MkIII in the subsequent Prospero boxset. Yes, aesthetically it would make sense the other way around, but ho hum.

**chaos0xomega**

Huh weird, my bad. I could have sworn it was other way around but I'll take your word for it.

**Haighus**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Huh weird, my bad. I could have sworn it was other way around but I'll take your word for it.

I think folk thought it was a bit weird at the time too, because they do match better the other way!

**Gert**

MkIV and Cataphractii were probably the most popular kits so it would have been a no brainer to sell them first.

**lord_blackfang**

And finally, this will be the last instalment of Heresy Thursday for a few months, while we turn our focus to the Mortal Realms. Our regular Thursday feature will return later in the summer.

There’s still plenty to come from Warhammer: The Horus Heresy and Warhammer: Legions Imperialis, both of which are still fully planned and supported, and more releases are scheduled in the second half of this year.

Hm, kinda sounds not even the already previewed stuff (Basilisk/Medusa) is coming out in the next 3 months?

The gap seems to be standard every year as HH makes room for main game updates.

**Kanluwen**

lord_blackfang wrote:
And finally, this will be the last instalment of Heresy Thursday for a few months, while we turn our focus to the Mortal Realms. Our regular Thursday feature will return later in the summer.

There’s still plenty to come from Warhammer: The Horus Heresy and Warhammer: Legions Imperialis, both of which are still fully planned and supported, and more releases are scheduled in the second half of this year.

Hm, kinda sounds not even the already previewed stuff (Basilisk/Medusa) is coming out in the next 3 months?

The gap seems to be standard every year as HH makes room for main game updates.

Last year still saw releases, just no previews outside of events like Warhammerfest. The last Heresy Thursday for April 13th, 2023 was the Librarian Consul and there were still a big chunk of stuff up for preorder after that.

**Gert**

Yeah I don't think they need to get a whole article for stuff that's already been shown.
Honestly, the fact that there's a pause is ok with me. I'm not being kept waiting to see anything soon and I can focus on getting the things I already have finished.

**Kanluwen**

Heresy Thursday explicitly was things not shown otherwise, wasn't it?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Yup.

Speaking of which? We’ve still not seen the Assault Weapon upgrade pack :(

**lord_blackfang**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup.

Speaking of which? We’ve still not seen the Assault Weapon upgrade pack :(

See this is why roadmaps are a bad idea.

**Kanluwen**

I'm just hoping we'll see the Hermes and Basilisk soon for preorder.

**Marshal Loss**

Bit of wet thud for the last Heresy Thursday for three months. I hope they show us the melee weapons soon.......

**lord_blackfang**

Oh yeah they still owe us the Hermes as well

**Kanluwen**

I would not be shocked if we see, when Heresy Thursday returns in July(when it returned last year):
-Veletaris Vanguard upgrades of Rotor Cannons
-Separate Veletaris Flamer/Pioneer kit.
-Some kind of "Reconnaissance" frame for the basic Solar Auxilia.

Pioneers and Engineers keep being a big buzzword for the Solar Auxilia.

**Dysartes**

Light Solar Auxilia Walkers + Legion Big Guns in the pre-orders this time: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/21/sunday-preview-the-tau-empire-needs-you/

**Kanluwen**

THE DUCKLINGS YAAAY

**BrookM**

Did not expect them to pop up so soon already, but oh well.. here we go, my Zone Mortalis list could use a few of those for fire support.

**lord_blackfang**

Ah I was hoping for another rest week for the wallet but here we go, and it's 3 boxes for a full unit IIRC. At least the artillery is bad enough that I don't need any.

**Kanluwen**

3 boxes for a full unit of 6, or 2 units of 3.

**Not Online!!!**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah I was hoping for another rest week for the wallet but here we go, and it's 3 boxes for a full unit IIRC. At least the artillery is bad enough that I don't need any.

Probably the best looking model in the SA range.... and yet the rules so awfull that you can coun't yourself lucky if anyone fields them in a battery at all.

**Dryaktylus**

Kanluwen wrote:
3 boxes for a full unit of 6, or 2 units of 3.

Or 3 units of 2.

**Kanluwen**

Dryaktylus wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
3 boxes for a full unit of 6, or 2 units of 3.

Or 3 units of 2.

Don't be riduckulous!

2 units of 3 should be the goal. Then you get to have Mighty Ducks styled flying V formations!

**BrookM**

Yeah, it is a shame that the artillery guns got hit so hard with this edition, but still getting one for the sake of having one for the cohort, maybe two more if the build is as enjoyable as the Leman Russ and Malcadors are.

Though I have pre-ordered three boxes of the Hermes walker so I can have a squadron of each. :sweat:

**MajorWesJanson**

I'm starting with a unit of 6 volkite to run in a veletaris unit and escort a unit of volkite heavy sentinels. Untitled goose gang.

**Snord**

I would like them to revise the Militia list so that these Sentinel variants are included. These little ones in particular seem more appropriate for second line troops than 'proper' Sentinels.

**Matrindur**

€ prices for this week, both SA models are 55€ so the same price as the new Leman Russ