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So I was looking at the GW scenery and came across this...seriously these two items are $16 different in price? The sprue is worth $16?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440312a&prodId=prod20008a

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440312a&prodId=prod30001a

Really, GW

That's actually exactly why they are priced differently. No real mystery.

Explain this then, heretic...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440213a&prodId=prod1290061

Bastion (US$29.75) + 2 x Chaos Accessory Frame (US$20) = US$49.75

Looks to me like you save $4 on buying the Bastion and the two frames separately.

So what's the problem?

Old Man Ultramarine wrote:Explain this then, heretic...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440213a&prodId=prod1290061

Oh man, that is fantastic. I wouldn't pay an extra $16 for a small sprue with some crappy chains and spikes on it anyway, but it's insulting that they sell that very same sprue loose for $10. Just further proof of some of the silly things that is losing GW customers.

Edit: I didn't notice that it came with two silly chaos spike and chain sprues. So I suppose you're saving a few dollars, like Insaniak pointed out. I still would just rather purchase the Imperial bastion and do some converting without the chaos spiky bits to give it a chaos look.

Simple, they're counting on you not knowing that the Chaos Tank Sprue is in the Bastion box. Why not make $6 extra dollars off a buyer?

Plus you get awesome artwork for the Chaos bastion!! /sarcasm

augustus5 wrote:Oh man, that is fantastic. I wouldn't pay an extra $16 for a small sprue with some crappy chains and spikes on it anyway, but it's insulting that they sell that very same sprue loose for $10. Just further proof of some of the silly things that is losing GW customers.

Look again. You're paying an extra $16 for two sprues that normally sell for $10 each.

Stormrider wrote:Simple, they're counting on you not knowing that the Chaos Tank Sprue is in the Bastion box.

How are they counting on that when they tell you in the description...?

The mystery is why they even sell it in the first place. We hashed this out when these were first announced, but to go over it quickly:

1. The people most likely to want a Chaos Bastion are Chaos players.
2. Chaos players are also more likely to have spare parts from the various Chaos vehicle assessory sprues they have.
3. Therefore the people who need extra sprues the least are Chaos players.
4. Therefore Chaos players are better served buying the regular Bastion, and not the Chaos Bastion.

edited for my own stupdity

Aww, I was all set to come in and make a big to-do about "Because these are Citadel FineSpikes (TM)" when I saw that it's the original tower plus 2 tank sprues. So it's not terribly unreasonable for a Games Workshop product.

insaniak wrote:

augustus5 wrote:Oh man, that is fantastic. I wouldn't pay an extra $16 for a small sprue with some crappy chains and spikes on it anyway, but it's insulting that they sell that very same sprue loose for $10. Just further proof of some of the silly things that is losing GW customers.

Look again. You're paying an extra $16 for two sprues that normally sell for $10 each.

Stormrider wrote:Simple, they're counting on you not knowing that the Chaos Tank Sprue is in the Bastion box.

How are they counting on that when they tell you in the description...?

Simple, they're also counting on potential buyers to be lazy and not look online for it, or in the case of online buyers, ignore the sprues and get "shiny bastion syndrome".

Stormrider wrote:Simple, they're also counting on potential buyers to be lazy and not look online for it, or in the case of online buyers, ignore the sprues and get "shiny bastion syndrome".

And this accomplishes what, exactly?

I mean, I know GW are the most evil company since... er... whatever the last really evil company was, but I rather suspect that you're still missing what's actually happening here.

They're packaging a bastion with a couple of Chaos accessory sprues. They're telling people, right there on the website, that the're doing this. And they're giving you a small discount off buying those items separately.

What insidious motive are you reading into that?

The only thing I don't get is why put park railings atop a keep?
Those crazy Chaos guys and their wacky garden designs!
What are they like

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:The only thing I don't get is why put park railings atop a keep?
Those crazy Chaos guys and their wacky garden designs!
What are they like

Safety first. Even in Satan's army!

lol 'elf and saftey in the grimdark? whodda thought?!
Didn't Satan try to tempt Christ to jump off a tower?
Not so easy if you have to climb over the spikey railings.

When they first released the Chaos Tank sprue they put it in the Rhino kit for free. Yeah, the chaos and imperial Rhinos cost the same amount and you got more stuff in the Chaos one. When a friend went to buy a Rhino I asked him to buy the Chaos one just so that I could have the extra sprue.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The mystery is why they even sell it in the first place. We hashed this out when these were first announced, but to go over it quickly:

1. The people most likely to want a Chaos Bastion are Chaos players.
2. Chaos players are also more likely to have spare parts from the various Chaos vehicle assessory sprues they have.
3. Therefore the people who need extra sprues the least are Chaos players.
4. Therefore Chaos players are better served buying the regular Bastion, and not the Chaos Bastion.

I don't often agree with H.B.M.C., but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.

Now, THIS is the one that is truly a mystery....

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440125a&prodId=prod1110179
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440121a&prodId=prod1150009

Why is the entire model 55p cheaper than just buying it's wings alone?

GW's pricing baffles me at every turn.

They simply aren't interested in running a bits service of any kind any more.

I don't often agree with H.B.M.C., but when I do, I drink Dos Equis

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Isn't that Spanish for horse piss?
No wonder you don't like to agree with him!

H.B.M.C. wrote:The mystery is why they even sell it in the first place. We hashed this out when these were first announced, but to go over it quickly:

1. The people most likely to want a Chaos Bastion are Chaos players.
2. Chaos players are also more likely to have spare parts from the various Chaos vehicle assessory sprues they have.
3. Therefore the people who need extra sprues the least are Chaos players.
4. Therefore Chaos players are better served buying the regular Bastion, and not the Chaos Bastion.

You forgot the people who will buy the Chaos Bastion because it's Chaos, not Imperial. And you need the Chaos Bastion to be Official.

Some people really believe that you must use the official models (for each model in your army) in order to have a WYSIWYG army.

*Starts crying after seeing Pegasus Example*

There is another set of Pegasus wings for £4.90
Not sure why one set would be 3 quid more
Are they nearly twice as good?

More evidence that GW use a spinner thing for their pricing
Round and round and round it goes
Where it will stop, nobody knows.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:More evidence that GW use a spinner thing for their pricing
Round and round and round it goes
Where it will stop, nobody knows.

I wish they would replace a couple of the "price hike" sections with something a little more wallet-inspiring.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:There is another set of Pegasus wings for £4.90
Not sure why one set would be 3 quid more
Are they nearly twice as good?

More evidence that GW use a spinner thing for their pricing
Round and round and round it goes
Where it will stop, nobody knows.

The 10 dollar pegasus wings are metal, the 6 dollar wings are plastic. The plastic pegasus is 11 dollars.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

I don't often agree with H.B.M.C., but when I do, I drink Dos Equis

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Isn't that Spanish for horse piss?
No wonder you don't like to agree with him!

Hmm nope Dos Equis means "two x". The Spanish for piss is... pis.

I didn't know what Dos Equis was, my google-fu tells me it's a brand of beer. So maybe you're just saying that it's a gakky brew and then my hole reply is pointless.

I want a cookie :(

That piss is Mexican, btw!

lol
Didn't know that
So better not say if it is Mexican it is prolly donkey pee, in case their lawyers jump on my back and ride me to court
*buckeroo*

For the non-American's, "I don't often agree with H.B.M.C., but when I do, I drink Dos Equis" is a play on Dos Equis' comercials involving "The Most Interesting Man in the World."

You can find these on Youtube pretty easy.

"I don't often agree with (insert name) but when I do I drink horse piss" is so much more colourful imho

Thanks for the explanation Kronk

This is old, old news.