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I'm about to begin an IG army and I need major help. The guy that I play with the most is an Ork player, but he really breaks the mold on how he uses them (to quote "I treat each of my Orks like a terminator facing melta-guns"). I'm not as familiar with the guard and am only getting 750 points of them. Any suggestions on this matter would be helpful.

Against orks you need a good mix of anti-horde and anti-light vehicle weapons. Are you planning on taking a lot of vehicles or going mostly infantry? If you're taking vehicles then chimeras with hull heavy flamers would be quite effective. Use the multi-lasers to take on buggies and trukks and then flame the boyz when they get closer.

A few autocannon are quite handy too, and Hydras are remarkably cheap.

one thing I like about guard is they have lots of template weapons. Every chimera can have a heavy flamer, and pretty much every squad can take 1+ flamers.

Here is a 750 list that can take on any race.

HQ

Company Command Squad : 150
Regimental Standard
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops

Veteran Squad : 155
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Veteran Squad : 155
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Fast Attack

Vendetta Gunship : 140
Heavy Bolters

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Battle Tank : 150
Hull Heavy Flamer

TOTAL : 750

Thanks for the replies. The one thing is that I have to take two heavy bolter and one autocannon heavy weapons teams somewhere in my list (not my idea but they came as a gift). My biggest problem is that I can't afford to buy too much as I will only have about $200 to spend when I but this list. Finally, I will only be playing against Orks and Space Marines for the forseeable future, so I don't care if I can't fight anything else.

Jereziah's list would perform solidly against Orks or Marines.

Ok, I should have said this earlier. I'm a kid, I get $90 in allowence per month so I'm not able to justify the expense of ordering a $25 conversion kit and having it shipped across an ocean and a continent or spending several hundred dollars on a small army to my parents, I also can't afford to spend too much on this list because my Ork playing friend is going to be starting his army soon (he's poorer than me so I buy his stuff) and will be needing two mega dreads and their gear from Forge World. If need to understand what I'm talking about, go on the U.S. GW site and look at unit prices, they're a lot higher here than in the U.K. Finally this has changed to being just anti-Ork since I do play a more balanced SW army. I do hate to sound snappy, but I figure I should make my self clear for future reference.

Welcome to the Guard recruit, you want a good cheap army then go elsewhere there are a few armies out there that cost a fair bit to do and the guards one of em (im in the same boat as you for funding, except i am not actually earning anything at the moment )

The basic army kit will probably be your best fried, pick up 2 of them then find a tank or two you like and bam! you should have about 50 guys, 6 heavy weapons teams, and 2 sentinels just from the 2 starter sets (and i think it would be clsoe to about...... $260ish with tax for the 2 kits)

Tazz Azrael wrote:The basic army kit will probably be your best fried, pick up 2 of them then find a tank or two you like and bam! you should have about 50 guys, 6 heavy weapons teams, and 2 sentinels just from the 2 starter sets (and i think it would be clsoe to about...... $260ish with tax for the 2 kits)

That's what I was thinking I should do! I really wasn't too sure about the starter kit, but my friend showed me more of his army list so I was begining to lean twards that. I should have an army list up soon.

Jereziah wrote:Here is a 750 list that can take on any race.

HQ

Company Command Squad : 150
Regimental Standard
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Troops

Veteran Squad : 155
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Veteran Squad : 155
Meltagun x 3
Chimera w/ Multilaser, Heavy Flamer

Fast Attack

Vendetta Gunship : 140
Heavy Bolters

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Battle Tank : 150
Hull Heavy Flamer

TOTAL : 750

Just putting this out there, I hate vet lists because they are some of the most boring lists on the planet. Not saying that it isnt good, but you will play against yourself A LOT!

If you opponent is bringing hordes, bring a manticore to ruin their day. I would suggest countering his ork horde with a better one. Bring platoons. It is more expensive, but you can bring more firepower then he can and shoot him off the board.

Veteran lists are boring because most I.G players use them.

I do enjoy Platoons though, here is a foot Imperial Guard list.

HQ

Company Command Squad : 120
Regimental Standard
Lascannon
Master Of Ordnance

Troops

Platoon Command Squad : 55
Sniper Rifle
Lascannon

Infantry Squad : 115
Commissar
Power Weapon x 2
Meltagun

Infantry Squad : 70
Power Weapon
Meltagun

Heavy Weapons Squad : 75
Autocannon x 3

Platoon Command Squad : 55
Sniper Rifle
Lascannon

Infantry Squad : 115
Commissar
Power Weapon x 2
Meltagun

Infantry Squad : 70
Power Weapon
Meltagun

Heavy Weapons Squad : 75
Autocannon x 3

TOTAL : 750

VI th legion wrote:Ok, I should have said this earlier. I'm a kid, I get $90 in allowence per month so I'm not able to justify the expense of ordering a $25 conversion kit and having it shipped across an ocean and a continent or spending several hundred dollars on a small army to my parents, I also can't afford to spend too much on this list because my Ork playing friend is going to be starting his army soon (he's poorer than me so I buy his stuff) and will be needing two mega dreads and their gear from Forge World. If need to understand what I'm talking about, go on the U.S. GW site and look at unit prices, they're a lot higher here than in the U.K. Finally this has changed to being just anti-Ork since I do play a more balanced SW army. I do hate to sound snappy, but I figure I should make my self clear for future reference.

As a kid, you don't have the money but have the time and health. So, use them to your advantage. You can make money on the side delivering newspapers, mowing lawns, and helping neighbors with random tasks (e.g. cleaning, sorting, dog-walking, babysitting). If you are good in school, you can also tutor younger or weaker students. There also are jobs that can help you mutlitask - for example, working at a library desk in your school can earn a few bucks while you do classwork on the desk waiting for customers. I don't mean to sound like an oldf**t, but in the end, making money to spend it is generally much faster than saving your allowance. It will also help you pick up a few skills that would be useful in your later life.

VI th legion wrote:Ok, I should have said this earlier. I'm a kid, I get $90 in allowence per month so I'm not able to justify the expense of ordering a $25 conversion kit and having it shipped across an ocean and a continent or spending several hundred dollars on a small army to my parents, I also can't afford to spend too much on this list because my Ork playing friend is going to be starting his army soon (he's poorer than me so I buy his stuff) and will be needing two mega dreads and their gear from Forge World.

I'm not sure I should stick my nose into anyone else's business, but you are buying your mate a load of forgeworld gear out of your pocket money? You're being taken for a ride mate, I would never have asked any of my friends to buy me anything on that scale when I was a kid, and I don't think I know anyone who would.

The most I ask my friends for are bits. Never anything from forgeworld. I would tell him to save for his own stuff. And dont worry, I get roughly $55 dollars a month now from working. You just need to save your money. It means that you don't jump points levels that often, but you get to know your army better.

First suggestion check Ebay and see what you can pick up there. Next i'd suggest you decide what type of Guard list you want Foot, Mechanised, Armour, Airborne, Mixed? I'd also suggest using alternate models.

Youre better off buying someones old guard army he doesn't want, its much cheaper and saves you time putting stuff together. With guardsmen and chimeras you can get good deals on ebay because these two models are generally the most numerous part of an imperial guard army.With heavy weapon teams I find it cheaper to buy bits, bases tripods then you can use 2 existing guardsmen and find a gun. Flexible and cheap.

The best way to start guard is to simply get stuck in and see what works. I'll change my army as the weather changes seasons. I find its best to have a few extra models lying around, rather than ONLY buying the ones you DEFINATLY need. What works for one commander, simply does not work for another. Also, what worked before, seems to no longer work with the current meta game getting wise to your tactics. Get yourself a basic force, a command HQ, a platoon and a vet squad. Find what you like out of these and expand from there.

The well tooled up vets take your fancy? Give them a chimera! add another squad or two from that platoon and make a mech army.

The infantry gun-line catches your eye? Grab some heavy weapons, sit tight and hold onto your socks!

The power blob is more your thing? Well who am I to judge!? Go power blob your opponants until the stars burn out and the Tyranids consume us all...