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I already own a doomwheel but should I go for another one a hellpit or a warp cannon?

Your title says Catapult, but your post says Cannon...

Either way the answer is cannon

Seriously though: They really all have useful places, some just more than the others.

Doomwheel: Monster hunter extraordinaire. With the relative lack of monsters seeing play though, the Doomwheel generally gets relegated to flanking on block units to try to break them via CR (when combined with a frontal charge of course!) Sadly, as much as I love the model he's the least useful of the Skaven rare slots.

Plagueclaw Catapult: Large pie plate of no-armor-save doom! Unfortunately, it hits at S2 which means actually wounding can be a bit of trouble. Now, a couple applications of Wither from Lore of Plague will make it easier to wound for sure, but it still means the PCC doesn't stand as well on its own.

Hellpit Abomination: Commonly considered absurdly overpowered/underpriced, I've yet to see massive return from mine. A common remark is that he's really, really hit or miss. He tends to either do extremely well at wrecking your opponent's face in, or he tends to run into a flamey burning death. That said, the look on an opponent's face when he gets back up after "death" is priceless. Get's second place in rare slots.

Warp Lightning Cannon: I will be the first to admit that the WLC could probably use a price hike. For a paltry 90 points you get one of the best, all around units in the game. Good at monster killing due to (potentially) high S shots, no armor saves and multiple wounds (d6). Good at unit killing thanks to the small template explosion at the end of the "bounce". Good at killing mobs of multi-wound models for both the above reasons combined. The WLC is my go to killing machine.

People complain about double HPA, and with how hard to kill the thing is I can understand it. But if my choice came down to two HPAs and one WLC or 2 WLCs and 1 HPA, I'd take the two WLCs every single time.

Plus, come on... it's a cannon that shoots LIGHTNING!

HPA every time one of those can hold an entire flank by itself.

Throw in all 4 you can do it in 2500+ and very few people know how to handle the mixed threat, if you had to drop one id drop the catapult, cannon, hamsterwheel and abomb are horrific

Being a elf player I really hate to see a catapult on the other end of the field, though I just hate the cannon and the abomb more. The thing with Skaven rare is they are all good just some are far better than others.

I'd choose Cannon 1st and 2nd, then it's a toss up.
The catapult is rad against anything with big units of 20mm infantry.
The cannon is multi-functional.
Aboms are good, doom wheel is redundant with cannon.

2x Cannon + Abom seems like the best choice if you don't know who you are going to be fighting.


-Matt

Aww. I bought two Doomwheels because I read their rules and I thought they were busted. It appears that I am mistaken. Oh well, I still have decent luck with them.

Kurce wrote:Aww. I bought two Doomwheels because I read their rules and I thought they were busted. It appears that I am mistaken. Oh well, I still have decent luck with them.

They still have a place I hate playing against them

What doomwheels bring to the table over the WLC is maneuver. You need to get it to the right place to do it's job... at which point it goes from 'eh' to 'WOW!'

Although I'll grant you that random movement makes getting it to exactly the right place a bit of a pain...

My preferance on Rare choices:

1) Cannon. This is a no-brainer.

2) Abomb. Again, duh. BUT... this is soooo expensive you can have one Abomb, or a WLC/PCC AND a Doomwheel, for the same price, or TWO WLC and a PCC for a bit more. They don't fulfill the same roll, I'll grant you, but... giving up that much firepower kinda hurts! So, my Abomb is second out in large enough games, and then mostly in games where I intend to field an elite (for skaven) close combat army.

3) Second cannon.

4) Doomwheel. Mostly because I don't have a PCC yet and would have to be 'that guy' and proxy it.

5) Second doomwheel.... at which point we are looking at a pretty darn large army.