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Looking to get a decent army list going had just purchased some orks

so here is what im looking at
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HQ-Warboss with bosspole and PK

Elites
5x lootas
5xlootas

Troops
19choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
19 choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
19choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
10xgretchin-runtherd

fast attack
deffkopta
deffkopta
deffkopta

You gonna get some Battlewagons for those 20 Ork squads?

Consider any or all of Cybork, Eavy Armor and Attack Squig upgrades for the Boss.

How are you gonna kit/use those Koptas?

I was kinda hoping you guys could help me decide what to put on the units.
as for wagons i dont know i dont have the money for em right now i spent a pretty good chunk on this current set up maybe in the future i will get them a transport.


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Would adding in a few killakans instead of battlewagons be more effective? like 6 killakan with the choppa/slugga boyz trekking behind them?

ok, put the boys in 2 mods of 30 then, you want footsloggers mobs maxed out and i normally give my warboss an attack squig and cybork. give the deffkoptas buzzsaws and rokkits and keep them as 3 seperate fast attack slots.
Lastly yeh sure Ive heard the can wall can be very effective, but you may want to get a big mek with kff aswell.

You could easily switch the Warboss for a BIg Mek with KFF to give the Boyz a cover save. You then have a simple green tide list. I would just add more Lootas and some Big Gunz for anti tank. Btw make sure those Koptas have rokkits and buzzsaw

Use the above advice. Drop the BP on the warboss. While the extra nob with PK is nice 19 is a really low number to be on foot, 25 minimum and even at that you'll want a KFF to provide cover saves. I think based on your prior post you should try this out, proxy the sluggas for shootas at some point as well they are nice.

Just a thought:

1) I would swap the Warboss for a Big Mek w/KFF (pick up 2 if you can), put TL Rokkits and Buzzsaws on all of your Deffkoptas.
2a) Either: Make those 3x19 Boyz squads into 2x29 and pick up some Killa Kans with Rokkits and Deff Dreads,
2b) Or: get Battlewagons for your Boyz

stileprojekt wrote:Looking to get a decent army list going had just purchased some orks

so here is what im looking at
O

HQ-Warboss with bosspole and PK

Elites
5x lootas
5xlootas

Troops
19choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
19 choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
19choppa/slugga boyz with nob/pk/BP
10xgretchin-runtherd

fast attack
deffkopta
deffkopta
deffkopta

Does the, AOBR. deff koptas come with tl rokkits?

Yes they do.

I'll need to make my own buzzsaw than?

Yes. I believe G.W has a bitz kit but I've used a power klaw on one and a battering ball from the Trukk kit.

Extra Arms from Killa Kanz lists also are good to use for Buzzsaws on Deffkoptas.

How many points are you looking to run with this list?

Warboss should always take an attack squig, that extra attack with PK always seems to become important.

I personally like larger mobs of Boyz and Lootas in my lists, so mobs of 30 including Nob with the required OK and Bosspole and then 15 Lootas per squad if I can afford them. Given Ork inability to shoot I always seem to need the extra shots.

Depending on how much terrain you play with in your local games a Big Mek is either needed or not for Ork infantry army. I find most tables these days tend to have enough cover to make the Big Mek with KFF unneccesary. So the Warboss is always better in my opinion, although usually I have him in the list to get the bonus of making a unit of Nobs a Troops choice.

Then I use the Mobs to deliver the Nobs into the heart of the enemy army.

@ Hialmar, what i current have or in the mail is this
Set of AOBR ork set
4boxes of ork boyz
1box of gretchin
3boxes lootas
1 Big mek with KFF.

as far as kustumizing the troops ill be limited so it may be rough going for the start. so currently what ever i get from these sets is what i have to work with untill i get some extra money.

As from points im looking at 500pts-1500.

As for larger groups i agree but i figure might as well make more scoring units.

Terrain it varies there are several tables at the shop.

Im sure I can trade some of my sm biyz for some ork bitz although i havent seen an ork player so ill be hopeful.


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I have found an attack squig bit for 1 dollar but i feel shipping price wont justify the price.

so ive been looking into a list like this

HQ-Ghazghkull-225

elite
4x nobz with 1xpainboy,cybork, tl shoota,big choopa,power klaw, shoota/scrocha kombi-190

troops
19 ccw boyz with nob with pk bp eavy armor-165
19 ccw boyz with nob with pk bp eavy armor-165
19 ccw boyz with nob with pk bp eavy armor-165
10 gretchin with runtherd-40

heavy support
3x battle wagon, deffrolla, red paint, armour plates,grot riggers, planks-135(405)

fast attack
1x deff kopta tl rokkit-45
1x deff kopta tl rokkit-45
1x deff kopta tl rokkit-45

leaves me with 10 point for a 1500 point army list


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My strat would be to move all the boyz up have the gretchin camp and foot slog the nobz with ghaz.

With the planks get close to other transports and punch them with powerklaw?

disembrak from wagon charge move the wagon back load up Ghaz and pals and move them up.

I would drop the planks off the BW's and the heavy armor off the Nob's, add at least a big shoota to the BW and then drop the rokkits off the Koptas and replace with Buzzsaws.

Don't drop the planks. 'eavy Armour's up to you. Big Shoota's a good idea, and once again, it's up to you on the Rokkits or Buzzsaws.

Remember, you're playing Orks. Not everything needs to be store-bought, or meant for Orks. You could get a Landraider and make it into a battlewagon- or you could get a bunch of plasticard and make it into a battlewagon. Be creative.

i thought you needed to use a certain about of GW parts to for models to be legal? i was thinking of just making a plastic card battle wagon.

you must have a big mek when you use a BW list, AV14 is nice, bout your side are Av12 and you only have armor 10 behind, so a litle flank and S7 weaponry can kill you.

Dont spend money on a GW kff, start your converting skills early as it is an orks best friend. All you need to make sure it is legal is the proper base size. A KFF can be made from random bits some wire and a nob body. There is a perfect head in the loota/burna kit (it's the MEK head) and it looks great for a KFF Mek.