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First off, screw you metal! Why when most of your products are plastic do you split some out as metal, I have no idea. Although at those prices, jeez!

I purchased my first fine cast models today. A pain boy and a tyrant guard.
I found that they are brittle as. You only need your finger nail to do pretty much everything.
Because of their packaging they still bend, but are more likely to break.
The most awesome glue ever, tamaya plastic glue doesn't work on them unless you somehow pin the pieces in place (i used blu tac) and leave it for hours (like the metal ones).

are we really any better off?
Your thoughts?

Haven't had any experience with it yet but I'm dreading it as i think its generally universally loathed around here.

I've had decent luck with them so far. I have bought a Black Orc Big Boss, Orc Warboss on Wyvern, Crowe and a Librarian. The Black Orc had an odd surface on some parts, and the tip of the Librarian's staff had a big bubble in it, which was not a problem because I replaced it with a Nemesis Warding Stave.

Plastic glue is not the right stuff, you want to use normal old super glue. It works amazing on these. I tried to take the left hand off my Libby after gluing, and it actually broke the resin next to the glue. With plastic you can normally snap apart parts with super glue, not Finecast though.

I bought a Orc warboss and while the detail was amazing I was annoyed that the boss pole was filled with bubbles and had to be replaced. Its the same with my experience with the forge world products. They look great but sometimes require more work.

I use Gale Force 9 glue from the LGS and it holds quick and firm to the resin.

I avoid it like the plague. I was first willing to give it a try, but upon inspection of literally a dozen or so Finecast products at my FLGS with my friends, they all had noticeable flaws through the blister pack. I think I'll take the advice from my friend at the store: "Wait a year or so to see if they can get quality control figured out".

Have they ever acknowledged the problem, or is it just swept under the rug?

I've not had the best of luck,

draigo and a librarian have both had chips out of them.

Quality wise there really really good

Resin is a cheap low quality medium, and with additional problems in QC, it's obvious finecast is a failure.

Speaking Of quality, my grot orderly has no elbow. His arm starts, theres some empty space, then a forearm.
I figured seeing a pain boy work was enough to convince him to keep his mouth shut

Personally I've yet to have a single problem with any Finecast model I've had thus far. No bits missing no bubbles... Maybe I'm just lucky. It's also FAR! easier to work with than metal imo, standard superglue works fine for me tried the plastic stuff and failed. For my metal models or rather the larger ones I use 2 part expoyresin.

So at this point I'm part of the minority who really like the finecast stuff, just waiting for GW to bring the Chapter Masters out in it so converting them for my BTs won't be such a chore.

Having seen some dire minis in the store coupled with the price increase I'll leave it.

Also WTFeth is this BS :

"Due to high demand, each Citadel Finecast product is limited to three (3) per customer."

Poor Quality
poor price
from a poor company
no thanks

Most Finecast is fine. Ive had no trouble with my models so far and in all honestly the metal models had equally as many casting faults as the resin with mold lines galore and small details all mooshed up etc.

Fine stuff!

I've never bought a fincast model, I'm too afraid to buy one due to all the criticisms I've read

I dunno but I think it sounds pretty cool. Kinda want an excuse to get a model.

I took the plunge and bought a Hive Tyrant.
No bubbles, no miscast part, not even a bent part in the box.

Far easier to work with than metal, at least as far as gluing it. But yes, as others have pointed out, Super glue is the way to go for assembly.

Lots of bubble issues on the first runs, games-workshop stores replace them no questions, so i have been ok with it. Or i show some balls and greenstuff that little bubble, lol

Hey psyclone, on your finecast painboy how hard was it to attach the arm? I have a metal one, and I love the sculpt, but the arm was a gigantic pain in the ass to attach (ended up being my first big foray into greenstuff). That knife sticking out of the tray the grot is carrying is also a pain, it bend every time you look at it funny--is that any better on the finecast version?

I wouldn't say I love or hate it, more like tolerate it, my friend has recently bought a broodlord and hive tyrant, the quality of
both models was superb and was looking forward to working with it myself but was disappointed by Drago, the details were a little morphed and the bottom half of the model was full of air bubbles, maybe I was unlucky, I'll be taking them back to the store if I have any others with similar problems, won't be paying 14 pounds for rubbish again.

Glue wise I use gale force nine glue, it sticks anything to anything, the tyrant has wings which weren't pinned, my friends daughter has slowly gained an obsession with his tyrant and he's been dropped multiple times! Nothin has broke on him.

MrH wrote:Have they ever acknowledged the problem, or is it just swept under the rug?

Given that the 97% quality assessment in the Annual Report would have to say they have swept it under the rug.

Pity the initial batch sent out to the stores was the 3% and they chucked the good stuff in the skip by mistake.

Decided to give them a go and grabbed a lord commissar the other day. It is still in the blister pack but it seems to be OK from what I can see. Just a shame that we no longer have a FLGS and a GW on the other side of town is the closest and fasted way to get them (only two IG blister packs on the shelf and a handful of other pieces). The few finecast marine options I took a look at seemed pretty fancy and in decent shape as well.

I absolutely hate fine cast!

I bought a big mek with shook attack gun during my lunch break yesterday when I was at work, when I got back to the office and opened the box I noticed 'pock' marks over the legs and the head was missing.

Off I went to swap the box (using the remainder of my lunch hour making the second trip), the staff apologised and exchanged it, off I went back to work. I opened the box halfway back and this time the snotling/grot additional piece was missing and the mek's foot looked like it had melted into a blob.

I went back after work and explained the problem...after the staff went through 4 more boxes, we found a complete and correct box.

Now this morning, when cleaning up the parts to fit together, I noticed the chain connecting the mek's left shoulder to the top of the gun is missing quarter of an inch of its resin.

I give up now, I've built and glued it and will fix the problems with filler and GS, but this has put me off buying any further fine cast products

I have yet to buy a finecast model but I got a chance to see one today. It was displayed at a game store and I was pretty shocked at how bad it was. Maybe it was just a bad model, I have no clue. I thought it was a joke at first. It looked horrible! The resin just didn't stand up to plastic, which doesn't make sense. GW has been selling this new product hard and I don't see any huge reason to be excited Painting metal can be a pain but I am really hesitant to waste money on something that has been getting a lot of negative views.

I've got some Finecast models sitting next to me waiting to be taken off the sprues and prepped. I'm dreading the amount of clean-up I'll have to do. Everything looks so messy.

I really would have preferred GW focused more on multi-part plastic kits. Plastic is awesome.

The Fragile Breath wrote:I avoid it like the plague. I was first willing to give it a try, but upon inspection of literally a dozen or so Finecast products at my FLGS with my friends, they all had noticeable flaws through the blister pack. I think I'll take the advice from my friend at the store: "Wait a year or so to see if they can get quality control figured out".

Pretty much what I'm doing. With the price rise and Southern hemisphere embargo in place as well, I've just been picking up secondhand metals and plastic figures/sprues lately. As well as a lot of non-GW product.

Bought the Logan Grimnar model. There was a literally 1x1x1mm gap running from the end of his axe across his shoulders and to his left hand. I took it back and the GW manager and I discovered all of his were like that in some shape or form. He gave me a surplus metal one for free. I bought a Lord Commissar thinking it was just the Grimnar model, but the Lord Commissar was horribly miscasted.

So far, not a good experience with them

FrozenSoul80 wrote:I've got some Finecast models sitting next to me waiting to be taken off the sprues and prepped. I'm dreading the amount of clean-up I'll have to do. Everything looks so messy.

I had this problem with the Big Mek with KFF. There was a huge amount of flash all around, and in some places the process of removing it would have spoiled parts of the model if I hadn't been really careful (e.g. long trails coming off the ends of his fingernails). The other model I've had was a Painboy, no major problems here but there was one small air bubble (easy enough to deal with) and his syringe is pretty bent. I'm not sure how to fix that...don't you have to use warm water or something to make it pliable?

I love the stuff. It is really good for conversions because it is just as detailed, but not as heavy. It is 100x better than metal in my opinion.

Fezman wrote:

FrozenSoul80 wrote:I've got some Finecast models sitting next to me waiting to be taken off the sprues and prepped. I'm dreading the amount of clean-up I'll have to do. Everything looks so messy.

I had this problem with the Big Mek with KFF. There was a huge amount of flash all around, and in some places the process of removing it would have spoiled parts of the model if I hadn't been really careful (e.g. long trails coming off the ends of his fingernails). The other model I've had was a Painboy, no major problems here but there was one small air bubble (easy enough to deal with) and his syringe is pretty bent. I'm not sure how to fix that...don't you have to use warm water or something to make it pliable?

I've seen a few people cut off the needle from the syringe, and use part of a thumbtack for it.