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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:23:16
Subject: Monolith removal
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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My brother has a monolith. no matter how many times i try i can never beat it. worst part is he has exaggerated the "i'll be back" Necron special rule making his Necrons basically invulnerable, because he hides his codex. so,
A. How do i kill a Monolith with a small Tau army?
B. What is the "i'll be back" special rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:42:12
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Hellish Haemonculus
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First off, he's cheating if he hides his Codex. You're entitled to read his rules.
We'll Be Back essentially allows wounded models to get back up on the subsequent turn on a die roll of 4+.
If you are playing Tau, then Str 10 weapons are your only hope.
In addition, when you next examine his Codex, check out the Phase Out rule.
Best way to kill a Monolith? Don't. Kill enough of his infantry to phase him out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 20:44:58
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Uh. I would stop playing against someone who behaves this way. Now there is no monolith to remove. WIN.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:18:19
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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so, when you say "wounded" you mean not dead right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:19:55
Subject: Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TauMeth wrote:My brother has a monolith. no matter how many times i try i can never beat it. worst part is he has exaggerated the "i'll be back" Necron special rule making his Necrons basically invulnerable, because he hides his codex. so,
A. How do i kill a Monolith with a small Tau army?
B. What is the "i'll be back" special rule?
Refuse to play him if he hides his codex.
Also, ignore the monolyth and go for phase out. I've only played Necrons about 6 times, but I phased them out every game.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/01 21:20:32
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 21:32:03
Subject: Monolith removal
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Been Around the Block
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I play necrons fairly often and i go for the phase out every time just smash the warriors and ignore everything else,
also avoid them getting their wbb rule with power weapons or weapons double their toughness also im sure theres something about beating them in cc means they get no wbb but someone else would have to confirm this
good luck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 22:37:02
Subject: Monolith removal
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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If you only have a small tau army, how many points does he have? The monolith must be eating up a huge portion of that. Kill the rest of his army and make him phase out.
If you have a question about his rules make him show you the codex.He doesn't get to hide it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 22:49:04
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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However, here is my concern, if he Phases Out, will i still gain victory points for the spared units? And if so how much?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 23:47:55
Subject: Monolith removal
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The Hammer of Witches
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The codex doesn't say if you get VPs for a phased out army, but no matter what the actual victory were, you win the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:14:31
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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For those who don't know,Phase Out rule means that if he is reduced to 25% of Necron modals yhey phase out and lose.so if he had 20 warriors,a monolithe and c'tan,kill 15 warriors and you win.
to prevent wbb,you need an instant death attack or armour save ignoring weapon like melltas and power weapons.They have to be within 6" of a modal that is the same and is still functioning,ie,not waiting to use wbb.so a warrior would need to be within 6" of other warriors.
Note resurrection orbs allow them to come back even if the above retsrictions apply,though i think instant death still kills them totally
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:31:04
Subject: Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just read his codex or don't play him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:35:37
Subject: Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Take the rulebook to his monolith and/or dreadsock him until he relents and gives up his codex.
Or you could take the morally preferable route and refuse to play him until you're allowed to read through his codex, but there isn't as much mindless violence that way ¬.¬
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:45:18
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:50:52
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Dakka Veteran
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Act like a child and refuse to show him your rules until you see his then proceed to tell him Tau are BS 6 S 8 T10 and that the space pope give your entire army EW and power weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 00:52:43
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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and weapons that auto matcally kill you if you dont pass a test that needs a 7+ to pass on 1D6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 01:25:42
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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well i already took care of the codex part...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 01:27:10
Subject: Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Good.
Now read the Phase Out rules, and We'll Be Back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 01:30:24
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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just moving the rules down here to keep it easily accessed
Deadshot wrote:For those who don't know,Phase Out rule means that if he is reduced to 25% of Necron modals yhey phase out and lose.so if he had 20 warriors,a monolithe and c'tan,kill 15 warriors and you win.
to prevent wbb,you need an instant death attack or armour save ignoring weapon like melltas and power weapons.They have to be within 6" of a modal that is the same and is still functioning,ie,not waiting to use wbb.so a warrior would need to be within 6" of other warriors.
Note resurrection orbs allow them to come back even if the above retsrictions apply,though i think instant death still kills them totally
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:13:57
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Guys, guys... guys. C'mon now. Killing monoliths with tau? That's like the only thing tau can do.
Take 3 broadsides with that +1BS upgrade. It'll be dead in a turn, I guarantee it.
guarantee voided if you roll poorly, don't shoot the monolith or didn't deploy your broadsides in LOS of the monolith because you were smoking stuff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:19:04
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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ill test and hold you to that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:19:58
Subject: Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OP, What does TauMeth mean?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 02:25:58
Subject: Monolith removal
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Cranky tau that are paranoid, twitchy and scarred..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 08:15:30
Subject: Monolith removal
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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Seriously, Monolith vs tau, Tau win. You have the railgun that can outmatch him so badly it's not funny. Especially if you take a few of them. Anything S10 AP1 makes necron players cry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 15:23:11
Subject: Monolith removal
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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TauMeth wrote:My brother has a monolith. no matter how many times i try i can never beat it. worst part is he has exaggerated the "i'll be back" Necron special rule making his Necrons basically invulnerable, because he hides his codex. so,
A. How do i kill a Monolith with a small Tau army?
B. What is the "i'll be back" special rule?
Plenty of good advice on smacking him around for hiding his codex, but as for the Monolith the Tau are in the best position of any army to deal with them.
Broadside suits with twinlinked str 10 AP 1+ rail guns, another unit with marker lights. Mark the crap out of the monolith, boost the BS of the broadsides with the markers and BANG!! instant broken monolith. QED.
Skriker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 16:32:50
Subject: Monolith removal
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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agrred,i was going to say nids are second but then saw MCs dont get 2D6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 16:44:07
Subject: Monolith removal
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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The easiest way is just to ignore the monoliths, kill 75% of his army and win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 16:49:13
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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Tau made Crystal Meth. good stuff i tell ya.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 17:39:04
Subject: Re:Monolith removal
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TauMeth wrote:Tau made Crystal Meth. good stuff i tell ya.
OK. Thanks for that explanation.
I hope the advice here helps!
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