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Alright, so imagine, you're talking to your club members, discussing an upcoming game, when the others start talking about pre set teams. You discover that you've been landed on the duff team - the noobs, who can barely put a marine together, against easily the toughest members of your club. It's going to be a thourough thrashing, and you know it; you may as well not bother turning up.
The game is tomorrow - how do you deal with this imbalance?

Honestly I think you can jsut try tour best and give your teamates tips and tactics. You should have metioned the unbalance then and there becasue I suspect they purposly imbalanced the teams so they would win.

Since I'm an adult, I would talk to everyone involved and try to reach an amiable solution.

Tried and tried, this isn't my first case. I'm just interested in seeing how dakka would deal with it. Coincidentally, the tough team arn't backing down, now what?

Sounds like a terrible club... stop playing with them?

The game is not balanced around team play, and if they can't attempt to enjoy the game for the social activity and attempt to make it fair for all involved what is the point in being their punching bag?

Sound advice, though There arn't any other local clubs that I can get to.

liquidjoshi wrote:The game is tomorrow - how do you deal with this imbalance?

Don't show up. Send the organizer an email explaining why you didn't want to participate. Emphasize the fact that you don't find getting curbstomped by the best players to be "fun" by any stretch of the imagination.

I would then suggest ways to make the event more fun for everyone involved, not just for the best players who want to beat up on the noobs. For example, balance the teams.

Does the rest of the "duff" team look forward to being spanked? If not, suggest to them that you play your own match on another table and the tough team can choke on a skull.

I've been in similar situations and tried my damnedest to more or less wrangle the newbies into something resembling a coherent group of players. This doesn't work terribly often, but when it does it's very, very satisfying. It would probably be better to do your own thing with these guys in a separate game while the more experienced guys can play on their own, instead of just having what sounds like a one sided beatdown.

lord_blackfang wrote: suggest to them that you play your own match on another table

+1

simple, fun, effective

I agree, play with the newbies, exclude the others from your game.

Use this as a chance to train them up, etc.

Keep going until it's fair (even if it takes years) or until the other players realise that they're not going to be able to keep doing this and actaually make the teams fair.

liquidjoshi wrote:Tried and tried, this isn't my first case. I'm just interested in seeing how dakka would deal with it. Coincidentally, the tough team arn't backing down, now what?

Obviously I'd be the strongest member on my team. My skills and experience with the game would carry the day against any odds. The N00Bs would worship me as their new god... Solorg! After seeing the great victory and the way our so-called "veteran" opponents were thrashed, everyone else at the table and all the passerbys would throw their armies in the trash or smash them with hammers - and then start Ork Armies instead.

WAAAGGHHHH!!! ORKS!!!!!
Solorg (your god)

Tell them you don't want to play because the teams are obviously unbalanced.

Suggest they balance up the teams.

Also where about do you live I might know if there's a place near you if your lucky.

Implement an overnight training session for the noobs, beat them into shape and then thrash the powergamers mercilessly with your hither to useless team mates...

but since this only works in movies you could:

a) feign illness
b) get "called into work"
c) leave the country

I would:

Get all the noobs to make notes on how they were beaten (this will annoy the other guys as a bonus) in each game but will be hugely beneficial as a learning exercise to them. I would then spend the next few weeks playing against the noobs helping them understand how they lost and be a better player. This would mean I didn't have to play against people with insecurities who have to thrash worse players to feel good about themselves whilst looking for a better set of people to play against.

Last post just made me think:

You could actually try using the 'chicken' technique, not literally shout chicken at them but if you can be more subtle then that could actually work.

You need a training montage

In reality though, just play with the rooks and show them the ropes. Then you can challenge them on equal footing

MikZor wrote:You need a training montage

In reality though, just play with the rooks and show them the ropes. Then you can challenge them on equal footing

Of course, the Montage needs to be playing 'eye of the tiger' in the background

Excellent work everyone, in the end they did balance the teams, just waiting to actually play the game now