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So I know alot of guys who move their models more than 6 but less than 7 and say that is fine , and I myself believe that you need to move only 6 , so my question to you dakkanites is when moving your model when measuring from the back or front of the model for either movement, running or assault do you go just under 7 or do you go 6 like the rulebook says?

6" means a maximum of 6.0000 (go on infinitely with the 0's). You can got 5.9" or 4.1". However, anything over 6.0000 is right out!

A 6 inch movement is a max of 6 inches. 6.0whatever is too much.

Why is this even a question? Upto 6 inches is exactly that. It does not mean 6 inches plus a little more.

6" + a little bit more = 7"

Eyesedragon wrote:So I know alot of guys who move their models more than 6 but less than 7 and say that is fine

People like that are called 'cheaters.'

Thanks for the ruling guys!

Page 12 even has a little picture about how to measure movement so that you only move 6" and not more than 6"

For the most part 6" is 6", its a maximum, not like how we do speed limits... 25? must mean a minimum...

I CAN however agree with hoard players who choose to move front models their set 6" and back models the set 6" then just kinda blob the rest in between. If you are moving 100+ models a turn, it takes a VERY long time to measure and move each and every one.

ork green tide with 400 boys.i shudder to think of that movment phase.and i once saw a guy measure 60 boys properly,not just clump the middle like you said.

Right and most of the time, who really cares if the orks are not moving exactly 6"? It's still against the rules but most of the time it just doesn't matter.

If it's turn 5 and you're running a mob of orks towards an objective I'm going to ask you to be precise about your measurement.

well yeah.because you are going to have to fire every thing and assault and inflict wounds with all attacks,fail all his armour saves,and he is still going to have at least 100 boys left in the tide.

No, its because if the game ends at the bottom of turn 5 it will make a difference to the outcome whether the orks are just inside or outside of range to contest an objective.

thats what im talking about.but if its a green tide he can just remove tyhe 30 modakls furthestaway from the objective.

I'm obviously not being very clear. The mob of 100 boys is what looks to be about 10" from the objective. You run and roll a 4. I'm going to ask you to measure your 4" move very precisely. Because if it turns out you were 10.1" from the objective before you ran, I don't want you running 4.1" so that you can contest.

Most of the rest of the game I could care less if you move more carelessly.

i see.

just fyi,it wouldnt capture anyy way as its 3" to capture/contest objectives

Deadshot wrote:i see.

just fyi,it wouldnt capture anyy way as its 3" to capture/contest objectives

Semantics.

His point remains that it's important to play the rules as they are. As a horde IG player, I know the movement phase pains very well. Generally, I do the 'measure the first row, and then move the rest up' method, but I know that wouldn't fly at a tournament or anything more than a casual game.

I usually measure first row and eyeball there rest when moving at the beginning of the game or out of range of opponents. Assaults and everything where the distance actually matters, are measured exactly. If my opponent wants me to measure every move, I'm fine with that. Most of the time they will tell me to go on as before after a turn though, because measuring 6" for 100 models takes forever, even with practice.

Just throwing my hat in here.

"Up to" means up to and no more than.

There was never a need to ask for this to be clarified.

When I play horde, I measure the front and blob the rest in, unless its a weird terrain area where their formation falls apart. Then Ill measure the ones that need measure, and toss the rest in. It takes to damn long measuring every single boy

KingCracker wrote:When I play horde, I measure the front and blob the rest in, unless its a weird terrain area where their formation falls apart. Then Ill measure the ones that need measure, and toss the rest in. It takes to damn long measuring every single boy

Same, I measure the front line (10 ish boyz suually) then i try to keep the formation for the others. If need be I measure more (terrain, getting flank, etc.)

If you dont have funny-shaped terrain just put your boyz on a piece of cardboard and move THAT 6". You'll only have to measure once and its very exact on every single model

Front-to-back movement is covered on pg 12. It's cheating.

This reminds me of a guy at our store who faces his all Death Co army backwards so they do not have to rage since they don't have LOS to anything.

Then has the nerve to post on here about how a good natured player in our group tries to fudge the rules!

Then wonders why we won't play him.

line of sight does apply to modals facing the wrong way.LoS draws through its squad members so wh not itself.
rage applys as long as 1 enemy modal is visble,not just from the head direction,if you can draw a stright linee from the head of a modal to any part of something else,not including wings,guns,banners,etc,then it has LoS.

he is a cheater

Spelling... learn to do it.

In tournaments you see this all the time. If its not going to be relavent you leave it be, if you feel he's overly generous warn him once or twice.
I was playing in the Bay Area open and one of my opponents was moving 7inches on his lead models in at least two units, it was really annoying and obvious. When it came time to assault, I marked where his model was and remeasured, he wasn't too pleased to find that most of his models missed the assault after he thought he had everything based. He was even less pleased after I carefully fouled up my models attempts to base new models and left over half of his unit with no one to fight, and all my unit was fighting. I lost that combat, but his unit which was a pure assaulty was no longer a viable assault unit after that combat. If he had based me 100%, I'd have lost my entire unit probably with returning no casualties. I let him hang himself on that.

(use your opponents cheating to your advantage, if they always move too far, you catch them when the assault is close.)

I've noticed this happen in quite a few games ESPECIALLY when said unit is like 13-14" away from one of my units. They'll slip an inch here and there for 14-15" assaults. It's futtbucking annoying.