Id, RAGE new trailer, looks pretty amazing

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**daedalus-templarius**

Like Fallout with awesome cars with guns and much better shooting, also looks much better

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_rage_uprising-22523_en.html

YEA!

**BrookM**

Borderlands, but less cartoony.

**daedalus-templarius**

And buggies with guns!

**BrookM**

Yes, Borderlands, but less cartoony.

**Necros**

is it gonna play like borderlands? Or just be a wannabe COD with a 4 hour campaign?

**RatBot**

I see almost nothing that makes this really unique when compared to other post-apocalyptic style games.

With all that said, it still looks quite good and I'll be buying it.

**daedalus-templarius**

Necros wrote:is it gonna play like borderlands? Or just be a wannabe COD with a 4 hour campaign?

Calling an Id game a wannabe CoD makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.

Do you know what DOOM is, sir?

**Grundz**

daedalus-templarius wrote:
Calling an Id game a wannabe CoD makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
Do you know what DOOM is, sir?

He trolls alot, ignore.

**Mr. Self Destruct**

Necros wrote:is it gonna play like borderlands? Or just be a wannabe COD with a 4 hour campaign?

The door is right over there.

**Sasori**

I wish they'd make DOOM 4. I loved Doom 3.

**BrookM**

iD needs to stop make games and just focus on the tech aspect instead. Their games are tech demos at best and showcases of what you can do with their engines.

**Soladrin**

Sasori wrote:I wish they'd make DOOM 4. I loved Doom 3.

They are making Doom 4

They have said this more then once in Rage interviews. No footage yet though.

**Arctik_Firangi**

BrookM wrote:iD needs to stop make games and just focus on the tech aspect instead. Their games are tech demos at best and showcases of what you can do with their engines.

Could say the same for Epic and Crytek...

**htj**

Yeah, I really enjoy Borderlands and... wait, this is something else? Huh.

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I mean seriously. When I first saw this advertised I genuinely thought it was Borderlands 2. It's just Borderlands! The cartoony style may be absent, but the enemies even look the same.

For shame ID. They may have made Doom, but that was a long time ago. If knocking off other games is the best they've got, then all I can do is shake my head and sadly walk away.

*gets hat*

*walks to door, turns back with last hopeful look*

*sadly closes the door, slowly shaking head*

**Arctik_Firangi**

This looks far better than Borderlands IMO, and has a different style beyond the lack of cartoony rendering. Gameplay... I have no idea.

It can't be much worse than single-player Borderlands though.

**htj**

Ah, lucky for me I've only ever played co-op, so I could not compare. I disagree about the difference in style, though. It feels very similar to me, especially around the enemies that you face and the vehicles and such.

**Grundz**

BrookM wrote:iD needs to stop make games and just focus on the tech aspect instead. Their games are tech demos at best and showcases of what you can do with their engines.

You mean like they've been doing since Doom3? Rage is primarily developed by bethada
Might want to do some research there before saying stupd things.

**BrookM**

Grundz wrote:
BrookM wrote:iD needs to stop make games and just focus on the tech aspect instead. Their games are tech demos at best and showcases of what you can do with their engines.

You mean like they've been doing since Doom3? Rage is primarily developed by bethada
Might want to do some research there before saying stupd things.

A thousand pardons to you, overlord of all things. If I'm worrying about anal stuff I know who to turn to in the future.

**Grundz**

BrookM wrote:
Grundz wrote:
BrookM wrote:iD needs to stop make games and just focus on the tech aspect instead. Their games are tech demos at best and showcases of what you can do with their engines.

You mean like they've been doing since Doom3? Rage is primarily developed by bethada
Might want to do some research there before saying stupd things.
A thousand pardons to you, overlord of all things. If I'm worrying about anal stuff I know who to turn to in the future.

Well I guess spouting garbage onto the forums to increase postcount is your primary concern and the actual content of those posts is secondary, but I accept.

**Necros**

Sorry, but it was a serous question...

I don't play multiplayer games often, I want a fun single player experience. Most shooters that I try have a campaign mode that I can blow through in a day (like the COD games), so it's hardly worth the $60 I just dumped on it. Rage looks good, so if it plays like Borderlands and takes me a couple weeks to finish, then they'll get my money. If it's just another shooter, I'll wait a year and buy it used for $10.

**daedalus-templarius**

Its a shooter, it might be like borderlands but I have no idea because I never played it(borderlands).

Grundz, why do you think this is being developed by Bethesda? I haven't heard or read anything to back that up. Id is just under the same umbrella company (Zenimax) as Bethesda, but they aren't developing Id games.

**htj**

Wikipedia wrote:The user plays as a survivor of the 2029 Apophis meteorite impact who has just awoken from an Ark (a world-wide movement which took scientists and other significant people, and froze them underground in cryo-pods so they could rebuild Earth). Soon, the player comes to realize that his Ark has malfunctioned and that he is the only survivor. Apparently this environment is perfectly suited to the rough-and-tumble dune buggy racing seen in games like MotorStorm, as that sort of gameplay will be an important feature of Rage. Players will have the ability to augment their cars with various items and upgrades they can gain by completing races, but the game is not specifically a racing title, trailers have shown a mix of mainly first person shooter elements as well as driving elements.

Rage will also feature some role-playing game (RPG) elements—an inventory system and the capabilities of weapons will be based around types of ammo. Players will also have the option to customize their weapons.[9] There will also be side missions. More on the RPG elements have not been detailed. At E3, Tim Willits stated that at the game's core is a first person shooter with car-combat added in and without the racing being the sole and central focal point. The game will be set in a post-apocalyptic wasteland created by an asteroid impact. The world will be populated by the human survivors of the impact who were preserved from the asteroid by being buried in the Arks. The world will also be populated by mutants who will serve as the player's main enemies at least for the first half of the game, as id is currently talking of a major change taking place at the midway point of the game.

Sounds like it'd be too open world to fit the CoD model. More focus on vehicle combat. Despite my earlier decrying, this might potentially be good. However, I still think it's a Borderlands knock off. Time will tell.

**daedalus-templarius**

Couldn't you just as easily say it is a fallout knockoff in terms of setting?

I mean, its a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

**htj**

It's the look of it, though. I first saw this trailer in the cinema, and I genuinely thought it was for a new Borderlands. It looks very, very similar. Plus, Borderlands is an FPS with RPG elements and lots of use of vehicle sections. The only thing that sounds different here is the modding stuff which, I must admit, does make me a little more interested.

But yeah, this is a knock-off of Borderlands is a knock-off of Fallout is a knock-off of Mad Max. One could probably go on, but I just feel it's pretty flagrant in this case.

**Chrysaor686**

Understand that this game was announced before Borderlands was, so it's more than likely that Borderlands borrowed from RAGE, not vice versa (No one will understand this, since Borderlands was released first, but I will bet money on RAGE being the superior product in nearly every way). Either way, they're both heavily influenced by Mad Max, hence the visual style.

This does look much more fun than Borderlands, there is something resembling a storyline, and the game is much more refined and polished. The enemy AI and animation system in particular are top-notch. The enemies aren't just idiotic cannon fodder for you to test out your cool new weapon, and your options look a bit more tactical in nature. Most importantly, the game world actually seems vibrant, as opposed to completely stagnant, and I consider that to be a good thing.

I have no doubts that the Id Tech 4 Engine will dominate the gaming landscape for a while after this game comes out. This certainly gives the Unreal Engine a run for it's money.

**Necros**

Everything is a knock off of something. It's just another game in that setting, just like every fantasy game is a Tolken knock off .. I've always liked post apocalypse settings so I'm hoping this will be fun. I guess I just meant I want a long campaign to play through, that's all. I'm going through Bioshock 1 & 2 now, that's my kinda shooter

Borderlands was a lot of fun, I liked the storyline and the humor but the "brownness" of everything kinda got dull after a while. I really liked how the Zombie DLC was more colorful. I prefer a more realistic look than a cartoony look though.

**Grundz**

daedalus-templarius wrote:
Grundz, why do you think this is being developed by Bethesda? I haven't heard or read anything to back that up. Id is just under the same umbrella company (Zenimax) as Bethesda, but they aren't developing Id games.

Its a staff thing, Zenimax moves staff around pretty much at-will, ID's shop is mostly art and backend stuff, game engine, and art. While they had a bigger hand in this than say, Prey or heretic, a majority of the content was created by Bethesda staff directed by ID during downtime since apparently Morrowind-style games that hey develop have a ton of downtime for some parts of the team and its more cost effecient to move them off project to something else for a little while. But then again ID has said that rage is the first game since doom3 they are making entirely in-shop, but who knows what that really means.

As far as I understand, ID is kind of a weird developer with some of the best coders in the gaming world, and really directed artists, and thats about it, They dont have a huge staff and thats how they get away with releasing one game (which is awesome) every 5 years, they arent employing 100+ like bungie. they make a majority of their profits through engine royalties (even chunks of an engine like doom3's lighting system bring in huge profits) and outsourcing some of their talent occasionally.

**Chrysaor686**

@necros: As for your question, this looks to be a very long and engaging game (with things like weapon crafting, an economy, side quests apart from the main storyline, etc.). It should hold you over for quite some time, and it doesn't resemble Call of Duty in the slightest way (aside from the fact that it is also from a first-person perspective).

id makes great first-person shooters that really tend to push the envelope in some way. They all stand as landmarks of some sort of achievement or another. I would expect the same from RAGE. It probably won't do as well as their other flagship franchises (as they had the misfortune of being shafted by Gearbox on the setting), but I'm sure it will be revolutionary nonetheless. It certainly looks to be, in it's current state, anyway.

**daedalus-templarius**

You realize they are not in the engine business anymore since being acquired by Zenimax, that was one of the reasons they let themselves be acquired, so they didn't have to screw with it anymore.

If they say it is their first in-house game since doom3... I'd imagine that Bethesda isn't really working on it. While I wouldn't be surprised if the Bethesda guys helped out occasionally, I still think 90% of the game is being made by Id staff.

**Melissia**

Any customization, IE gender, race, etc?

It's basically an FPS-RPG.... why exactly they leave out customization when all they're doing is creating another generic boring white dude to play as anyway is never explained except for sheer laziness.