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For a long time I messed with Vulkan lists. Here was my favorite:

Vullkan -190
Libby -Termie Armor, Null Zone, Avenger -125

10 Man Tactical -Flamer, MM, Combi-Flamer, Rhino - 215
10 Man Tactical -Flamer, MM, Combi-Flamer, Rhino - 215
5 Man Scouts -Sniper Rifles - 75

2 Attack Bikes - MM - 100
2 Attack Bikes - MM - 100
1 Attack Bike - MM -50

5 Assault Termies -TH/SS - 200
5 Assault Termies -TH/SS - 200

LRR -Extra Armor, MM - 265
LRR -Extra Armor, MM - 265

Lots of Hammers and MM. Scouts are the only thing odd, but they just camp a close objective, and annoy people with snipers.


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Also, looking at your list you just mentioned, two things.

First, why would you put Assault Termies in a LRC? The LR is going to be nice and close to deliver the termies, so use the LRR for Str 6 AP 3 flamers. Nice and close, no cover, no armor.

Second, use your 30 points change, drop a land speeder, and add another squad of 2 attack bikes with MM. 2 shots of MM is better than one.

TBH, I never got that list from the Netz. I made it up! I really like THs, so i spammed that.

wtwlf123 wrote:The LRC is better against hoards, and you can move/fire all of your weapons in the same turn. Seeings as how your TH/SS Termies are going to be rolling out and crushing MEQ in CC, I prefer to take LRCs instead to shore up a weakness of the list. I think they're MUCH better than LRRs.

I don't see it. First, the LR would be moving 12" to get the termies in place. So how can it shoot all weapons? Second, since you are moving 12", the one gun that you would/should shoot would be the AC, as it is much stronger, and puts out almost as much hurt. Third, the LRC's hurricane bolters can only hit 6 at best. A template over a horde however, has an upward of 15-20.

I suppose YMMV, but I would rather run LRR. Less points, more effective w/ termies.

wtwlf123 wrote:

xlEternitylx wrote:Third, the LRC's hurricane bolters can only hit 6 at best. A template over a horde however, has an upward of 15-20.

A couple things here. How are you only getting 6 hits with a pair of hurricane bolters? That's 12 shots, and they're TL. You should be getting at least 9 hits.

Second, what kind of player are you playing against where you get 15-20 hits from a single template? That's laughably bad unit placement by your opponent.

My bad, I meant 6 hits per side. I forogt about the defensive aspect, so I can see now more validity to a LRC.

And as for the template, I said it has an upward of 15-20. Against a horde of gaunts, it's easy to get several hits. Most I have got was 18, because they were all clustered together fresh from a tervigon. Rare opportunity, but many more kills than with HB. But again, I forgot the HB can always shoot.

Edit:
Can someone clear this up? Hurricane bolters: can they fire moving 12"? If yes, then see my above post. If no, then my original point stands.

So LRR becomes the better choice. With the MM added on, you can move 12" and either AC troops or MM vehicles. The effectiveness of a 6" LR? Might as well foot-slog for the speed you're going.

I suppose YMMV. In range to doubletap HB? In range for a flamer usually. Moving 6" at a time? Yikes. I couldn't do that.