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atm i have 2 cc hq's whose plan will be to ride with 2 squads of wyches, accompanied by a 3rd squad with no hq. I am trying to save some points here as 1 of my wych squads is down a member (the one with no hq) and i am 3 points over my goal of 2000.

My query is this:

If i drop 1 hekatrix from a squad with either Vect, or a clonefield huskblade soultrap drugged up archon i should be fine correct?

What this will allow me to do is up my thid wych squad to 10 members and get another shardnet. as well it allows me to put a shredder on my warrior venom who previously had no guns due to points cost.

drop the higly expensive hq, go with only one, and some homonculous (2-3)

get the hekatrix in with either an agoniser or other weapon to your liking

and if you had to choose which to drop? and why?

Im not sure why but the idea of taking haemys and a cc hq never really crossed my mind because i just never liked haemys, i still dont.. but i do see the point of them and it could be interesting to take a beast HQ and heamys for tokens.

Im gonna write another list up with 2 haemy and a cc hq

edit:
Im just not sure 2 haemys = 1 archon, the archon is almost as good as an entire squad of wyches by himself, and i really like going first so i think i want to keep vect. though the archon was my first choice for HQ, with that said i still dont have enough points to bring back the hekatrix if i get rid of the archon for 2 haemys with liquifiers

Taking a Haemonculus with wyches alright the only issue is they don't have fleet which makes things a bit... difficult. I once use to think about fielding a squad like this but its just not worth it as most people just leave the Haemonucli on the Raider(No fleet) when the wyches assault with a PT is the basic thought. So I'm not sure you want to do that. Though loosing an Agonizer is a problem for the most part that's the whole point of taking a wych squad. I would try looking around on your Venom's and Raider's try and pull off an addition or something for 5 points but the loss of a Hex and an agonizer just isn't worth it.

-Sincerely Viri

unfortunately there are no extras on anything, my list is already fairly minmaxed. i suppose i could post it here hoping i wont get banned for posting in the wrong section or something since the admins here hate me. This is the list missing 1 hekatrix but acquiring the extra wych and gun for warriors.

1 Asdrubael Vect (HQ) @ 240 Pts
#Shadow Field; #Ghostplate Armour; #Plasma Grenades; #Haywire Grenades;
#Obsidian Orbs; #Scepter of the Dark City; Master Tactician; Ancient
Nemesis; Splinter Pistol

1 Archon (HQ) @ 135 Pts
#Kabalite Armour; #Plasma Grenades; Soul-trap; Combat Drugs; Clone Field;
Huskblade (x1); Splinter Pistol (x1)

4 Kabalite Trueborn (Elites) @ 173 Pts
Blaster (x4)
1 Venom @ [65] Pts
#Flickerfield; Splinter Cannon (x2)

4 Kabalite Trueborn (Elites) @ 173 Pts
Blaster (x4)
1 Venom @ [65] Pts
#Flickerfield; Splinter Cannon (x2)

4 Kabalite Trueborn (Elites) @ 173 Pts
Blaster (x4)
1 Venom @ [65] Pts
#Flickerfield; Splinter Cannon (x2)

5 Kabalite Warriors (Troops) @ 115 Pts
Splinter Rifle (x4); Shredder (x1)
1 Venom @ [65] Pts
#Flickerfield; Splinter Cannon (x2)

9 Wyches (Troops) @ 188 Pts
Combat Drugs; Splinter P. & CCW (x8); Shardnet & Impaler (x1); Haywire
Grenades; Plasma Grenades
1 Raider @ [70] Pts
Flickerfield; Dark Lance

8 Wyches (Troops) @ 218 Pts
Combat Drugs; Splinter P. & CCW (x7); Shardnet & Impaler (x1); Haywire
Grenades; Plasma Grenades
1 Hekatrix @ [42] Pts
Splinter Pistol; Agoniser (x1); Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades
1 Raider @ [70] Pts
Flickerfield; Dark Lance

9 Wyches (Troops) @ 240 Pts
Combat Drugs; Splinter P. & CCW (x7); Shardnet & Impaler (x2); Haywire
Grenades; Plasma Grenades
1 Hekatrix @ [42] Pts
Splinter Pistol; Agoniser (x1); Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades
1 Raider @ [70] Pts
Flickerfield; Dark Lance

1 Ravager (Heavy Support) @ 115 Pts
Flickerfield; Aerial Assault; Dark Lance (x3)

1 Ravager (Heavy Support) @ 115 Pts
Flickerfield; Aerial Assault; Dark Lance (x3)

1 Ravager (Heavy Support) @ 115 Pts
Flickerfield; Aerial Assault; Dark Lance (x3)

Models in Army: 57


Total Army Cost: 2000

Honestly... I'd rip off the Shredder in the Warrior group. 1 there working at 24" and all the splinter cannons are working at 36" I don't know if you really want to push the 12" with enemies that could rapid fire at 12" so I would say drop the shredder and call it good.

-Sincerely Viri

kind of odd question.... but what is the small unit of warriors going to do? you dont need them for troops, and it looks like your going CC with all those wychs and archons. i would loose the warrior squad entirly, and buy some incubi and venom for your lords. vect+archon+3 incubi = dirty painful CC unit. and if its aided by all your wyches (wich i would even the numbers up) then your looking at a decent CC force, while your TB and ravagers do antitank duties.

other then that, im not entirly sure vect is really worth it, but i suppose he can cause some pain if he gets into the fight fast enough.

Note that haemunculi also mean shattershards and their various guns
Liquifiers make spess mahreens cry.

clidefr0g wrote:If i drop 1 hekatrix from a squad with either Vect, or a clonefield huskblade soultrap drugged up archon i should be fine correct?

The only honest answer is - 'depends'.

If I was to do this I'd probably trick out the Wyches to go assault vehicles and use the Archon/Vect to assault infantry. Without a Hekaniser Wyches do minimal damage vs. MEQ and I would tend not to want them in the mix when they could be doing something more useful.