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2011/08/10 19:53:36
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Provo, UT
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Team,
So, I was playing against a Slannesh Demon army last night and he had a banner that gave -2 to Ld. If I had cast the spell Vaul's Unmaking on it, would it have become a mundane banner? And does Vaul's Unmaking work on Demonic Gifts? I'm not sure if the banner was a demonic gift, but my gut says it doesn't work on gifts. However, if it was a magic banner then of course it would.
DAH
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2011/08/10 20:16:39
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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As per the rule book, gifts are not magic items.
As per the FAQ, banners are magic items, and a successful Vauls Unmaking would turn it into a non-magical banner.
-Matt
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2011/08/10 20:22:32
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Nasty Nob
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However, there is in fact nothing that says Daemonic Icons are magic banners, even though standard bearers can carry them. It just says they are Daemonic Icons.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/10 20:23:19
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2011/08/10 20:58:57
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have nothing to add except:
hmmmm
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2011/08/10 21:10:46
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Saintspirit wrote:However, there is in fact nothing that says Daemonic Icons are magic banners, even though standard bearers can carry them. It just says they are Daemonic Icons.
Page 95 - Daemonic Icons
Add “Daemonic Icons are Magic Standards.” to the start of
the first paragraph.
Source: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1780258a_FAQ_DaemonsofChaos_V1_4.pdf
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2011/08/10 21:54:23
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Saintspirit wrote:However, there is in fact nothing that says Daemonic Icons are magic banners, even though standard bearers can carry them. It just says they are Daemonic Icons.
Except the FAQ, which was already referenced...
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2011/08/11 18:09:12
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Nasty Nob
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Dang, didn't catch that when I read the FAQ... Very good then.
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2011/08/11 19:21:11
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Saintspirit wrote:Dang, didn't catch that when I read the FAQ... Very good then.
Yeah, if only somebody would have made reference to the FAQ in the 1st response to this thread 
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2011/08/11 20:01:24
Subject: Vaul's Unmaking on Demon Stuff
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Nasty Nob
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HawaiiMatt wrote:Saintspirit wrote:Dang, didn't catch that when I read the FAQ... Very good then.
Yeah, if only somebody would have made reference to the FAQ in the 1st response to this thread
I suppose I thought that with As per the FAQ, banners are magic items
you were taliking about magic banners in general and not specifically daemonic icons.
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