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Mad props to Jim Smash

http://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2011/08/jordan-star-trek-theme-park.html

So this is happening.... KING ABDULLAH BIN AL-HUSSEIN of JORDAN has greenlit a $1.5 billion, green-technology driven, Star Trek-inspired theme park to be built in the Jordanian coastal city of Aqaba.

"[It] will be spread over a 74 hectare area. It will consist of 17 entertainment zones and a four-star hotel among many other things. Paramount Reaction and the Rubicon Group with a 23rd century multi-sensory experience that will incorporate highly advanced visual and sound effects to give the people coming in the park a real-time feel of things. The technology which will go into building the Red Sea Astrarium Park will be unlike any other and they will be truly state of the art.” (article)

King Abdullah is a Trekkie himself and back when he was still a prince, appeared on 'Star Trek: Voyager' as a Science Officer.

Well, I must admit the populace is probably going to be less than thrilled about this...

I assume all the women will have to wear this

Hell yes. Time to go to Jordan.

On the one hand, I find it hard to believe Star Trek could be relevant enough to justify a billion dollar theme park, but not relevant enough to maintain a TV series in some form or another.

But at the same time, I think I'd be filled with intense disinterest in the announcement of another Trek series, but I'd love to go to that theme park.

Weird.


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WarOne wrote:Well, I must admit the populace is probably going to be less than thrilled about this...

In terms of middle eastern boondoggles, this is almost a model of reasonable spending. But Jordan is relatively free of such silliness normally, and the stability of the state is basically dependant on the popularity of the royal family, so...

Petra is in Jordan, isn't it? I think I'd rather go there, not gonna lie.

sebster wrote:
But at the same time, I think I'd be filled with intense disinterest in the announcement of another Trek series, but I'd love to go to that theme park.

I actually think a series set in the current reboot universe could be interesting, though obviously they aren't getting the relevant actors on board; at least its unlikely. But a series set in the same universe, with a different crew, might do well if they managed to translate the updated adventurism of the film on to the small screen.

Of course, it would most likely turn into a terrible fusion of Enterprise and TOS.

sebster wrote:
In terms of middle eastern boondoggles, this is almost a model of reasonable spending. But Jordan is relatively free of such silliness normally, and the stability of the state is basically dependant on the popularity of the royal family, so...

It certainly has nothing on proposed 1km monstrosity.

Either way, it would pretty hard for the Jordanian royals to lose popularity, especially when the King himself was on Voyager...oh wait.

Albatross wrote:Petra is in Jordan, isn't it? I think I'd rather go there, not gonna lie.

Why did they bury Petra in Jordan and not the Blue Peter Garden?


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And would not have thought that Katie Price was a Trekkie, though I suspect there are plenty that would enjoy a ride on her big dippers.

Apologies for lowering the tone

dogma wrote:I actually think a series set in the current reboot universe could be interesting, though obviously they aren't getting the relevant actors on board; at least its unlikely. But a series set in the same universe, with a different crew, might do well if they managed to translate the updated adventurism of the film on to the small screen.

Of course, it would most likely turn into a terrible fusion of Enterprise and TOS.

True, possibly. It's hard to say, because the new movie was so very different. All the worry about technobabble, continuity and utterly tedious characters that sank Voyager and Enterprise was chucked out, as they very wisely went back and put the focus on character and spectacle, and dared us to even try and make sense of the utterly silly plot.

It was a good choice, and I enjoyed the movie, but I'm not sure how convinced I am that it'll be sustained for another effort. Do I really want to see modern actors pretending to be like older actors again? I don't know.

If it was made into a new TV series, I suspect it would end up exactly like a terrible mess, getting the worst of the latter series, TOS, and the new movie.

It certainly has nothing on proposed 1km monstrosity.

I was thinking of that exact monstrosity


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Albatross wrote:Petra is in Jordan, isn't it? I think I'd rather go there, not gonna lie.

If you go to Jordan you can do both.

You could visit a site of profound meaning that's been worshipped for generations, and also go see that thing was in one of the better Indiana Jones movies.

sebster wrote:You could visit a site of profound meaning that's been worshipped for generations, and also go see that thing was in one of the better Indiana Jones movies.

The Nazca Lines are in Peru.

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sebster wrote:
True, possibly. It's hard to say, because the new movie was so very different. All the worry about technobabble, continuity and utterly tedious characters that sank Voyager and Enterprise was chucked out, as they very wisely went back and put the focus on character and spectacle, and dared us to even try and make sense of the utterly silly plot.

The plot makes more sense IF(and that's a big if) you read the prequel and Nero comics. Things the movie doesn't go into that more more sense thanks to comics: Nero's ship(converted using Borg technology as a test platform so that the Romulans could remain a power in the "current" timeline), the Klingon Prison escape(Nero redevelops his psychic potential to bond with the now "living" ship and contacts it once it's fully healed to rescue them), and how he knows where and when Spock will appear(the ship finds Vger for him and uses it to calculate the arrival). Nero also worked with Spock to attempt to warn Romulus and get his wife off planet before hand. Apparently, the whole Sun going Nova was also caused by the Romulan Empire testing forbidden weapons, although this is hinted at in Star Trek Online.

It's still silly, though.

The reboot was terrible from start to finish, uneven in tone, nonsensical plot and nothing that felt like Star Trek.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:The reboot was terrible from start to finish, uneven in tone, nonsensical plot and nothing that felt like Star Trek.

Seconded, other than drooling at Uhura, there was nothing in that movie that I liked, I even disliked Simon Pegg in it and I wouldn't dislike Simon Pegg if I came home to find him 'in flagranti' with our terrier.

I would certainly watch a more mature trek series set in the aftermath of the Dominion/Borg big battles of DS9 and Voyager, depicting the Section 31 order, perhaps some form of kill team/secret service, battling Tal'Shia and Obsidian Order and various other powers that would rise up to take advantage of the weakened Federation and the power vacum in the Alpha Quadrant.


But yeah, hated that movie.

Doh! I clicked on this thinking it was Jordan the slightly trampy ex model......I was thinking that she has really lost the plot now!

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:Doh! I clicked on this thinking it was Jordan the slightly trampy ex model......I was thinking that she has really lost the plot now!

Am i bad for thinking the same thing?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I would certainly watch a more mature trek series set in the aftermath of the Dominion/Borg big battles of DS9 and Voyager, depicting the Section 31 order, perhaps some form of kill team/secret service, battling Tal'Shia and Obsidian Order and various other powers that would rise up to take advantage of the weakened Federation and the power vacum in the Alpha Quadrant.

I'm puzzled that you would agree that the reboot felt nothing like Star Trek, but then are proposing a 'more mature' Trek, that'd likely be all about people grimacing and making tough decisions... Star Trek is at it's core optimistic about the future of mankind, and shows us at our best. That is the thing that actually makes it stand out amidst the current morass of manly men making badass decisions.

It's the one of the two things the reboot movie actually got right, the other being the terrific reprisals of the OS core roles.


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Platuan4th wrote:The plot makes more sense IF(and that's a big if) you read the prequel and Nero comics.

My problem wasn't so much with what the bad guys were doing, I figured there was something going on that was badly explained and figured there'd be peripheral material that'd explain it better. I've heard there was a comic that explained it all, and while that doesn't excuse not explaining it in the movie, I also don't really care that it didn't make any sense.

The issues I had were more with how they contrived to get to each set piece. They wanted Kirk to meet Spock in a cave, so they had just about the biggest coincidence I've ever seen in a movie. Given it was a film more about characters than plot, it was how they brought the characters together that had to feel true, and too many meetings were too contrived to really work.

I still think it was a pretty decent movie, because the characters were well done, and it managed to capture a lot of the feel that made Star Trek pretty good in the first place.

sebster wrote:

I'm puzzled that you would agree that the reboot felt nothing like Star Trek, but then are proposing a 'more mature' Trek, that'd likely be all about people grimacing and making tough decisions... Star Trek is at it's core optimistic about the future of mankind, and shows us at our best. That is the thing that actually makes it stand out amidst the current morass of manly men making badass decisions.

It's the one of the two things the reboot movie actually got right, the other being the terrific reprisals of the OS core roles.

To be fair, they tried the more mature version in DS9 and it was my favorite. But you're right, most people LIKE the happy peppy future from the 3 earlier TV series and DS9 was disliked by most Trek fans for trying it.

MGS, if you're looking for the darker post-Dominion War/Borg fights and aren't opposed to MMOs, you should check out Star Trek Online.

Feel weird recommending an MMO for the story...

sebster wrote:
The issues I had were more with how they contrived to get to each set piece. They wanted Kirk to meet Spock in a cave, so they had just about the biggest coincidence I've ever seen in a movie. Given it was a film more about characters than plot, it was how they brought the characters together that had to feel true, and too many meetings were too contrived to really work.

Ah, ok. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

sebster wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I would certainly watch a more mature trek series set in the aftermath of the Dominion/Borg big battles of DS9 and Voyager, depicting the Section 31 order, perhaps some form of kill team/secret service, battling Tal'Shia and Obsidian Order and various other powers that would rise up to take advantage of the weakened Federation and the power vacum in the Alpha Quadrant.

I'm puzzled that you would agree that the reboot felt nothing like Star Trek, but then are proposing a 'more mature' Trek, that'd likely be all about people grimacing and making tough decisions... Star Trek is at it's core optimistic about the future of mankind, and shows us at our best. That is the thing that actually makes it stand out amidst the current morass of manly men making badass decisions.

Platuan4th wrote:
To be fair, they tried the more mature version in DS9 and it was my favorite. But you're right, most people LIKE the happy peppy future from the 3 earlier TV series and DS9 was disliked by most Trek fans for trying it.

MGS, if you're looking for the darker post-Dominion War/Borg fights and aren't opposed to MMOs, you should check out Star Trek Online.

Feel weird recommending an MMO for the story...

Most Trek fans I know loved DS9.

It was certainly my favourite by a country mile.

Episodes like 'Duet' and 'In The Pale Moonlight' are phenomenally well written and acted. It's that dark and edgy that I think the series I was proposing could bring to the fore.

Voyager was the lame duck of the series IMO, only bouyed up by 7o9's assets and the amazing holographic Doctor.

DS9 seems to be the love it/hate it series from what I can tell (I'm pretty sure everyone just hates Enterprise...). I honestly liked Voyager the most. I liked the reboot. It was much better than I expected it to be and I'd be interested to see a TOS style series without Shatner. I've just never gotten his appeal.

What I'm more intrigued by is why Jordan. Is ST big over there?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
the amazing holographic Doctor.

Everybody loves the doctor



And the assets aren't that bad either

People hated the newest Star Trek movie?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MY...

I wonder if this is genuinely to have some economic growth or for him to have a play ground. I hope its the former as he's always seemed like a relatively benevolent monarch that tries his best to do whats good for his people, despite having the least natural resources in that region, as well as taking a good portion of the Palestinian refugees, Chaldean refugees fleeing Iraq and all the problems that entails.