A Tyranid Odyssey: A boy and his bug collection

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**alabamaheretic**

carnifex brood with fnp that sounds like a bad day all the way around. oh git any new updates comming soonish?

**Gitsplitta**

Next week maybe. Sorry... last two weeks have been really busy.

**alabamaheretic**

its fine i was just being hopeful thats all. well it is the summer and good weather fireworks as of yesterday, family outings i know your are busy people so its ok by me.

**fatty**

a trick with nids is take that warrior hq dude i forgot his name. stick him with a carnifex and hide the hq dude behind a wall or other object. becaus half of the unit is consealed the fex gets a cover save. and the hq may join the fex

**Lorna**

They also get BS 4, if your talking about a prime.
and weapon skill 6, i think.

**DarkStarSabre**

Warriors only get the WS and BS increase.

No other unit does.

But it is the Prime he's talking about. The only other Tyranid IC out there is the Parasite and I don't think you'd attach that to a Carnifex brood.

**Lorna**

Dammit, not quite as goo. Imagine a dakka fex brood with BS4

**DarkStarSabre**

True, but the reason the Prime is so good....10 point regen and 3 wounds.

That in itself is obscene.

Most people use him as an AP2 regen soaker. He can take 2 wounds, T5 means he's fairly hard to instant kill and his regen is so dirt cheap. Considering you're rolling every turn for those wounds back...

**Lorna**

It is a fair point, i run one becasue i like it, that and he makes my warriors slight more deadly.

**DarkStarSabre**

Will admit though, the 'nid codex has some wierd balance issues with how Regen works.

10 points - Prime - 3 wounds
25 points - Carnifex - 4 wounds
25 points - Hive Tyrant - 4 wounds
25 points - Trygon - 6 wounds
30 points - Tervigon - 6 wounds

Now, the way it works - the more wounds a critter has, the more wounds it can lose and the more effective the regen is (since you roll a number of dice equal to the wounds lost and any that come up as a 6 = a wound back - every turn!). For the life of me I can't see why it spikes so high on Carnifexes compared to Primes. The HT? Fair enough for the roll it fills, same with the 6 wound Trygon. But Carnifexes? Silly.

And for 5 points extra it's a steal on a Tervigon, especially if taken as Troops!

Gits - Thing 2 wants a monster army, right? Well, if points were no issue....

23 monsters in 1 Force Org chart!

2 HTs, 3 Mycetic Spores in Elites for Zoanthropes. 3 Mycetic Spores in Troops for Gaunts, 3 Tervigons, 3 Harpies, 9 Carnifexes.

**Lorna**

Don't forget the tyrannofex can take it, and Old one has the best regen in the game, Rapid it's 5/6 to get it back and he has 4 wounds.

**ChocolateGork**

Lorna wrote:Don't forget the tyrannofex can take it, and Old one has the best regen in the game, Rapid it's 5/6 to get it back and he has 4 wounds.

But is is very expensive and cant pod. Old one eye IS one of the worst unit in the codex

**DarkStarSabre**

Yeah. Old One Eye is really lacklustre, especially when you compare it to the only other thing in the game that gets the same 'trick' as him (making attacks for each attack that hits) - The Furioso Dreadnought. He has a cap, it doesn't, it costs significantly less and has a better initiative to boot.

I also forgot to mention Harpies - but Regen on a Harpy is risky as they can be IKed by range - S10 is their bane.

**Gitsplitta**

Loving the discussion guys... I know NOTHING about nids so my poor son is just getting whatever models we both agree look cool.

He's got (roughly, from memory).

Tyrant
Prime
3 Zoeys
7 warriors (not optimized... just claws & talons)
20 stealers
ripper swarms (many)

2 Trygons, one T-prime
2 fex's & 1 tervigon or 3 fexes
2 brood lords
3 hive guard
box of gargoyles
parasite of mortex counts-as
3 more warriors that I can set up with lash whips & bone swords, hope to expand this brood eventually.
A number of termigants for the tervigon
3 raveners

Most of this is not painted (the things that have are in this blog), but the tyrant and 2 plain fexes are close. Once those are done, I'd like to do the two brood lords to help out the stealers. After that... I'm not sure where to put our efforts. Hive Guard maybe?

So, that's where we are at the moment.

**Lorna**

Hive guard are pretty cool, and i think the flying things are gargoyles. seeing as GW hasn't produced stuff from the cpodex with wings otherwise.

and Old one eye does suck.
I ran him for a while, best moment was wiping out 7 squads of marines. 5 tac, 1 assault and 1 squad of thunder hammer termies.

he did then get killed by scouts.

**alabamaheretic**

never fought gargolyes, but i do like the raveners, the only problem i see with them is they are glass cannons. but if they can eat a unit in the first go in combat good on them. tyrants are kinda tough to kill. i think you should work on his tryrant and guard. but thats my two cents on it.

**Gitsplitta**

Tyrant is getting worked on now... and I'd planned on doing brood lords and hive guard next... so I think we're in synch on that pretty well.

**alabamaheretic**

sounds good to me oh you should check out the gms i posted two pics

i also got WIP of the objectives im working on. they are in my gallery http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-user.jsp?u=44814 there if you want to take a lookie loo

**Gitsplitta**

I saw your guys on the GMS page... nice work! :-) I like the fist-bump beakie... just a really fun pose.

**ChocolateGork**

Lorna wrote:Hive guard are pretty cool, and i think the flying things are gargoyles. seeing as GW hasn't produced stuff from the cpodex with wings otherwise.

and Old one eye does suck.
I ran him for a while, best moment was wiping out 7 squads of marines. 5 tac, 1 assault and 1 squad of thunder hammer termies.

he did then get killed by scouts.

Lol fluffy. If only it was telion

**alabamaheretic**

the power fist is actually off the new devastator squad sgt, i dont have any cool old minis but i have the new ones. well if you want ill trade ya sgt for sgt in the gms when you are ready.

**Gitsplitta**

When I'm ready for new trades, we'll see what I need. I'm actually using my trades to form tactical squads for my army, so I'm pretty restricted in what I can take. We'll see.

**alabamaheretic**

no problem, i have a minor obsession with power fists, so every sgt has one. its my homage to the crimson fists. my vanguard vets have one too, need some more of em. well if you need a heavy weapon i got like two lcs, and two plasma cannons. I personally am just trying to have some cool other painted minis to use in a game. any way here is a Nurgle objective i was working on.

**DarkStarSabre**

Gitsplitta wrote:When I'm ready for new trades, we'll see what I need. I'm actually using my trades to form tactical squads for my army, so I'm pretty restricted in what I can take. We'll see.

I may actually supplement your disappearing Librarians when you get round to it

Currently stripping my old school Libby!

**Gitsplitta**

Cool objective alabama! (I just love objectives.)

@DSS: For vanilla marines, a libby is one of the best command options out there, especially for smaller games if you aren't inclined to use named characters. I'd love an old school libby, especially one in marine armor that went with my early period MW's. Going to be a while though, I make such slow progress on my trades.

**DarkStarSabre**

Then you'll be a happy man - Image not mine but this is the model that I'm stripping - not this actual one but this is the Libby variant I have

**Gitsplitta**

Love that model!

**DarkStarSabre**

I've even got one of the old school backpacks sat aside for him as well

I also randomnly have a RTB01 missile launcher in my bits.

**Gitsplitta**

Ah, you have a wealth of old crusty things DSS! I like those old MLs... they've got... character.

**alabamaheretic**

whats an old missile launcher look like?

oh yea my objectives git here were the two i been working on first is the nurgle themed one and the second is the khorne themed one. enjoy!

Nurgle:

Khorne: