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 Sidstyler wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I wish I was...

Yeah, I fell for that one. I seriously went to the GW site to check thinking "No way!"

I've got bad news for you...

I just checked my emails to check, thinking "that can't be right" and that is in the email advertising Codex: Iyanden.

That has just been emailed out by GW.

Yeah.

$100 for the 'full' rules to play Iyanden = There goes any thoughts I had for playing Iyanden!

I may give this book a look, not to do Iyanden because I don't like the colour scheme but maybe my own Craftworld using Iyanden rules.

One thing though, does this book contain a complete set of rules, wargear and armylist. Or is it only a few extra things and you still have to reference the standard Eldar codex for all the statlines, weapons etc?

I am also curious as to what the actual contents of the book are, as I just spotted it on the GW site going for the same full codex price as its parent book.

Funny enough the super-duper limited edition goes for less than the super-duper limited edition of the parent book.

 Leech wrote:
One thing though, does this book contain a complete set of rules, wargear and armylist. Or is it only a few extra things and you still have to reference the standard Eldar codex for all the statlines, weapons etc?

As it says on GW's page, you still need a copy of Codex: Eldar for it to be of any use.

Keep in mind that it is totally possible to play Iyanden with the Eldar Codex, even with Wraith Guard as standards (if you take a spiritseer HQ). Codex Iyanden is a luxury bonus having some nice tidbits like new warlords traits, some extra background, some nice extra scenarios for special games, nothing absolutely essential. That's why they didn't even bother to translate this and sell it in stores.

That said, the price is of course insane and a test for future supplement codices.

 Sidstyler wrote:
lmao, are you serious?

Yeah they should let people just buy the sub-dex and open it up to find it referencing the Eldar codex and realising that they can't actually make an army.

Amazing how things are twisted on here to make GW look bad

You're right, of course.

GW does need anyone's help making them look bad!

Their $100 special for the full Iyanden Experience does that all by itself.

Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

I guess we'll see?

I'd hazard yes. I'd gladly pay that if it was for IG or a Space Marine chapter, and I don't class myself as a serious hobbyist, I rarely even buy directly from GW.

 BryllCream wrote:
Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

And that's why GW gets away with it. Sell very expensive items to the few gullible instead of reasonable priced item's to the meny.

overtyrant wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

And that's why GW gets away with it. Sell very expensive items to the few gullible instead of reasonable priced item's to the meny.

Pick the last thing you bought from GW... I think it is insanely overpriced and that you are an easily manipulated sheeple.

See how unhelpful it is?

overtyrant wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

And that's why GW gets away with it. Sell very expensive items to the few gullible instead of reasonable priced item's to the meny.

Wow, way to insult all your fellow gamers. I bought it because I like Iyanden, I have the army painted up, and want the special rules. I'm well aware of the fact that it costs 50.00, I promise I am. I am also aware that this whole hobby is a "luxury", expensive, and I in fact do not "need" this.

What I am not though is some dumb gullible sheep. I'm well aware of all of these things. Simple fact is I wanted it I had the money and I bought it. I was in no way suckered or swindled I knew what I was getting into.

 BryllCream wrote:

overtyrant wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

And that's why GW gets away with it. Sell very expensive items to the few gullible instead of reasonable priced item's to the meny.

Pick the last thing you bought from GW... I think it is insanely overpriced and that you are an easily manipulated sheeple.

See how unhelpful it is?

Hmm let me think..... the last thing I bought from GW was... I can't rightly remember to be honest, it might of been a corpse cart from Ebay for about 10 quid. I don't buy from GW anymore BECAUSE of the prices there a joke. All the more power to you for buying from them (if you do) they'll keep on rising the prices and people will keep on buying. Next the rule books will be sold in hard back full colour sections, movement in one shooting in the another etc. I will start supporting GW again when they start giving a damn about there customer/fanbase.


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Mr.Church13 wrote:

overtyrant wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Presumably it's worth $100 to some people.

And that's why GW gets away with it. Sell very expensive items to the few gullible instead of reasonable priced item's to the meny.

Wow, way to insult all your fellow gamers. I bought it because I like Iyanden, I have the army painted up, and want the special rules. I'm well aware of the fact that it costs 50.00, I promise I am. I am also aware that this whole hobby is a "luxury", expensive, and I in fact do not "need" this.

What I am not though is some dumb gullible sheep. I'm well aware of all of these things. Simple fact is I wanted it I had the money and I bought it. I was in no way suckered or swindled I knew what I was getting into.

That's alright for you then because you can afford it, and i suppose you will keep on buying when said books reach 60, 75 or even 100? My friend has to get his Codices (spelling?) and rules by other means because there to damn expensive. If they keep this up they will sell one Codex to one person because no-one else will be able to afford it, way to go growing the fanbase.

It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

 Harriticus wrote:
It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.


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overtyrant wrote:

That's alright for you then because you can afford it, and i suppose you will keep on buying when said books reach 60, 75 or even 100? My friend has to get his Codices (spelling?) and rules by other means because there to damn expensive. If they keep this up they will sell one Codex to one person because no-one else will be able to afford it, way to go growing the fanbase.

Lol. So because someone will buy something at one price, they'll buy it at a higher one? I earn minimum wage and I can still afford to spend £30 on something I enjoy...it's hardly a huge amount of money.

That's alright for you then because you can afford it, and i suppose you will keep on buying when said books reach 60, 75 or even 100? My friend has to get his Codices (spelling?) and rules by other means because there to damn expensive. If they keep this up they will sell one Codex to one person because no-one else will be able to afford it, way to go growing the fanbase.

The way I see it is I could pay more for video games(far more in some cases), but I don't play that many games and I like war gaming more. The prices and level of fun for both hobbies are very comparable to me so yeah I pay the premium now. Although you are right if they keep going up then yeah I'll cut back or stop but I just don't feel we're to that point yet.

Mr.Church13 wrote:

That's alright for you then because you can afford it, and i suppose you will keep on buying when said books reach 60, 75 or even 100? My friend has to get his Codices (spelling?) and rules by other means because there to damn expensive. If they keep this up they will sell one Codex to one person because no-one else will be able to afford it, way to go growing the fanbase.

The way I see it is I could pay more for video games(far more in some cases), but I don't play that many games and I like war gaming more. The prices and level of fun for both hobbies are very comparable to me so yeah I pay the premium now. Although you are right if they keep going up then yeah I'll cut back or stop but I just don't feel we're to that point yet.

Spot onIi agre 100% (which is why i don't pay full price for my video games ). My price point has been reached. I'm just glad there are other games companies/systems out there that I play now for Example KoW, Warpath, Dreadball, Warmahordes, Infinity, Godslayer (as soon as my buds get there starter) and sometimes WFB. But I can't justify GW prices and subpar rules (IMO of course) I wouldn't mind paying premium price for a premium product but I honestly don't think GW gives me a premium product (IMO of course).

 Krinsath wrote:

 Leech wrote:
One thing though, does this book contain a complete set of rules, wargear and armylist. Or is it only a few extra things and you still have to reference the standard Eldar codex for all the statlines, weapons etc?

As it says on GW's page, you still need a copy of Codex: Eldar for it to be of any use.

Thanks for the info.

I think it is rather annoying that if we use this and go out to game we need to drag another book around and ty to remember mid-game which one we need to reference for a rule.

 BryllCream wrote:
The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.

Last inofficial GW estimate I've heard was that it would sell out March2013.

BTW Limited Edition Eldar is not yet sold out, takes longer than Tau and High Elf LE. Although they claim to only have less than 600 left. Seems the 50$ plain green dust jacket isn't that popular

Compared to most hardback full colored books of the same quality $50 actually is about right. Really only problem I have is thier lack of justification for the price tag on their models. I can get a larger more detailed model that has color for half the price GW wants. Gundam models being a good example

 BryllCream wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.

Yes, and that's very telling how utterly gak it was.

 Harriticus wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.

Yes, and that's very telling how utterly gak it was.

It hasn't sold out yet. My FLGS still has all of theirs, and GW still sells it direct.

 Harriticus wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.

Yes, and that's very telling how utterly gak it was.

I liked it a lot.

 Harriticus wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It selling out quick isn't a very big deal and GW does it deliberately. They produce an extremely limited number of products then claim its selling like hotcakes when it sells out. Well, no duh only 100 items would sell quick when you're a multinational corporation.

The Hobbit Limited Edition didn't sell out too quickly.

Yes, and that's very telling how utterly gak it was.

Or it may simply mean that fewer people really want to pay $100 US to get the same thing they can get for half that? Let's face it, GW's limited edition stuff just doesn't seem like a very good investment when you consider selling later on the secondary market. It seems to me (anecdotally) that the steam is running out on this "limited edition" scheme of theirs. Hopefully they'll stop doing it and get back to work raising prices on all their plastic kits.

I think if maybe they had out a bit more rules exclusivity into the book then people may have been more at ease with stumping up the cash. So it felt like your where really fleshing/wraithboning out the force, rather than just stapling two rules onto the eldar codex. Personally gws idea for supllemental codices is not for me in its current form.

overtyrant wrote:


That's alright for you then because you can afford it, and i suppose you will keep on buying when said books reach 60, 75 or even 100? My friend has to get his Codices (spelling?) and rules by other means because there to damn expensive. If they keep this up they will sell one Codex to one person because no-one else will be able to afford it, way to go growing the fanbase.

Your friend doesn't HAVE to do anything... He wants a luxury he can't afford and then gets it through less then legal means.

Standard edition Iyanden print listed as "no longer available."

I guess they sold out on the first run already?

 Breotan wrote:
Or it may simply mean that fewer people really want to pay $100 US to get the same thing they can get for half that? Let's face it, GW's limited edition stuff just doesn't seem like a very good investment when you consider selling later on the secondary market. It seems to me (anecdotally) that the steam is running out on this "limited edition" scheme of theirs. Hopefully they'll stop doing it and get back to work raising prices on all their plastic kits.

Awesome. Needed that laugh. Thank you.