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Just a quick reminder - we need a thread in 40k General Discussion for this to continue, as I'll be locking this one in the morning. So, if you'd like to make a thread for it there, feel free to do so and I'll link to it when locking this one.
I found this thread, which I'll link to if no one makes a new one, as I think it is quite close to what's being discussed here:
Can't be 100% GW's fault in such a heavily houseruled environment.
Crimson wrote:AAE, most 40K players and thus most of GW's customers don't play ITC. This much is blatantly clear. You're overestimating the impact of those houserules outside relatively small bubble of mostly American tryhards.
And in any case, GW cannot relinquish the control of their game to a third party, doing so would be pure madness.
Hey now, dont lump those donkey-caves in with the rest of us sensible Red Sox(cant say Yankee for obvious reasons)!
Can't be 100% GW's fault in such a heavily houseruled environment.
Crimson wrote:AAE, most 40K players and thus most of GW's customers don't play ITC. This much is blatantly clear. You're overestimating the impact of those houserules outside relatively small bubble of mostly American tryhards.
And in any case, GW cannot relinquish the control of their game to a third party, doing so would be pure madness.
Hey now, dont lump those donkey-caves in with the rest of us sensible Red Sox(cant say Yankee for obvious reasons)!
Red Sox is no better, might I suggest "Detroit Tigers" as more appropriate for civilized folk?
An Actual Englishman wrote: What ‘house rule’ are you talking about? Do you mean ITC, the most popular way to play 40k competitively? Yes the results are somewhat relevant.
No they're not.
Imagine if every year the rules for soccer were revised, but based only on matches played between LA Galaxy and Los Angeles FC. They wouldn't represent a fraction of the league soccer tournaments across the world, yet their results would be reflected in a yearly rules update. That would be absurd.
This is why GW making changes to the game based on ITC is stupid.
An Actual Englishman wrote: Gents it doesn’t matter what any of us believe. GW believe that ITC is most popular, or at the very least there’s a market there. They’re acting on that belief. That is all.
So you've been unable to counter any points made against you, so have resorted to "Well... it just is!".
And then you're going to run away, having got in the last word. Classy.
I think you need to calm down. I don't really care about this discussion, I have no stake one way or another. I've already said my club has transitioned into playing Maelstrom missions instead of ITC.
I'm simply trying to explain to you why GW think balancing around ITC is a sensible thing to do. If you disagree with them, take it up with them.
An Actual Englishman wrote:GW believe that ITC is most popular
Do they? Even more popular than their own published rules?
I think not. But, if you can give a source...
or at the very least there’s a market there.
There's also a market for people who like more casual games, or only play Narrative/Open play games.
I'm not saying ITC doesn't have a market, or that it's not considerable, but until you've got proof that it's the most popular/common way to play 40k (which, I'm sorry to say, it really probably isn't), you shouldn't be making comments suggesting that it is, and that GW should cater to what is still, at the end of the day, a third party set of rules.
Would you FIFA to rewrite their rules and regulations because of schoolyard football games being played across the world?
You're strawmanning. Read my posts - I have also said I don't believe competitive is the most popular way to play 40k full stop. Not ITC, not ETC or any other mission set.
What I have said is that ITC is the most popular way to play 40k COMPETITIVELY. As to my proof of this I don't have any conclusive proof, obviously, but the largest 40k tournament ever uses ITC rules....
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Alright, let's take discussion of the ITC format over to 40k General Discussion. There is this active thread, but feel free to start a new one if appropriate, too:
